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Post by Erik Coppertop on Apr 13, 2012 9:36:01 GMT -8
Ok. I'll propose Erik. The 25 million was not a loan, it was a payoff. So Erik doesn't "owe" Evan anything. But, Evan was going straight and there was a very real threat that he would reveal all his past misdeeds - including paying Erik off. That would tank Erik's reputation and no one would buy his friers and no one would want to attend or bet on a boxing match orchestrated by him. Plus, if he is the groom, he had an interest in making sure his brother was in line for that inheritance. I can think of no reason that Erik needed to keep Evan alive. I can think of reasons that each of the other four survivors would want to keep Evan alive. The only problem is Erik's hand. We don't know if both hands are impacted and we don't know what the murder weapon was. So its not necessarily an impediment to this theory, just a mystery. I am not the killer. Evan and I were cool. I have no reason to kill Evan. My fryer business is awesome! Doing rather well. Yes, I had to throw my final fight...but we were good. Didn't Amer mention that Annie had a short backstory that included a deception? Perhaps there is more she is being deceptive about? Yeah, I jumped on the bandwagon...YOU were driving, Annie. So are the Aliens at least working together to get rid of the killer? If Paula and Son are working together? Then they think it is down to Farrell, Annie, and Me. Well, my Alien friends, let me me first say I was part of the Alibi of Sarah and Mike (both proven to NOT be the killer). And second, "How about a new Stoneburner Deep Fryer?" If the Aliens are NOT working together, consider it. Unless of course, one of the Aliens is the killer...using Teleport to get into Evan's room...and that's the question we all got wrong. Well, then were fucked. Anyway, not the killer.
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Post by Annie McClarabow on Apr 13, 2012 9:43:37 GMT -8
I believe I was mathematically eliminated as a suspect earlier in this thread.
Regardless, I need Evan alive to get to the bottom of the nuke deal and report back to HQ. I wanted good old American justice and to throw his ass in federal prison. Just needed enough evidence to put him, and his cohorts away.
What bandwagon was I driving exactly? I didn't vote with the herd nearly every week - Erik did.
And the alibi is not actually an alibi. Erik was with Mike and Sarah for the hours before the body was found - not at the time the murder took place.
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Post by Annie McClarabow on Apr 13, 2012 9:44:36 GMT -8
And again, Erik's backstory and Paula's characterize the $25 million dollars he received in very different, and key, terms.
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Post by Son Anheuser on Apr 13, 2012 9:48:24 GMT -8
Erik isn't the fryer thing just a pump and dump scam that you and Farrell are running?
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Post by Erik Coppertop on Apr 13, 2012 9:48:50 GMT -8
Ok...I am confused...Maybe I need to go ask Evan what the fuck ALIBI means. Because it was the title of the message I got telling me that I was with Sarah and Mike. They both have been proven to be innocent. So unless there is some bullshit technicality thing in this...I am innocent. So if someone is fucking up the stories...Paula should be put under the hot face burny light thing.
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Post by Annie McClarabow on Apr 13, 2012 9:58:21 GMT -8
Look up alibi in the dictionary. It doesn't matter what Evan called it (which you cannot prove anyways).
If I were you, I'd focus on the hands, figure out what the "murder weapon" is (and confirm its a weapon) and demonstrate how you could not have physically killed Evan.
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Post by Farrell on Apr 13, 2012 12:14:18 GMT -8
Okay...this entire cruise has not been what I signed up for! I was expecting to party like it's 1999. That said, I do have a few things to offer....I have received another PM from Andy, saying that the statement that was credited to her yesterday that "some people are not who they say they are" is NOT TRUE. She preempted this by saying in her PM of today..."More later, but this tidbit.." words from the dead, for what they're worth. And, What she gave up is true...to an extent. My backstory, the most of which was shared a long time ago, included the following: "You, along with Son and Andy, are aliens. Your alien status may or may not come into play, it will depend upon how long the game goes on and subsequent clues that may be given out." So there you have it....alien, I guess so, but thus far a non-activated alien. I truly believe that Evan gave us the assignation in case the murderer was sussed out too early and he needed to augment the game. We are all here to FIND THE MURDERER! And, obviously, he wouldn't make the murderer an alien....so that eliminates me, Son, and Andy, the dead blabbermouth who was proven NOT to be the murderer. Notice....her alien status was not revealed when she was killed.....because Evan wasn't going to employ any Alien strategy. BTW.....where the hell is KYLE? ?? There seems to be alot of discrepancies between Son and Paula. Son is coping to being an alien and that the aliens are responsible for the virus while Paula seems to still be Obfuscating things.
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Post by Annie McClarabow on Apr 13, 2012 12:32:36 GMT -8
I hate to say it but I agree. Everything seemed to point away from aliens earlier but their stories don't entirely jive. The discrepencies appear to be on the part of Paula... she also called the payment to Erik a loan whereas Erik characterized it as a payoff.
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Post by Farrell on Apr 13, 2012 12:49:51 GMT -8
But what is Paula's motive? The competing casinos are not relevant. She could just be acting suspicious on purpose ala Dr. Judy.
Paula's voting is all over the place and rarely with the majority.
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Post by Annie McClarabow on Apr 13, 2012 13:28:32 GMT -8
But what is Paula's motive? The competing casinos are not relevant. She could just be acting suspicious on purpose ala Dr. Judy. Paula's voting is all over the place and rarely with the majority. She has no real motive. In fact, shes probably grateful for all those opportunities he gave her to increase her wealth. Sure, a little irked that Evan won't be providing those opportunities with his stopping the cons but hardly murderous. I do think she might be omitting some info, though.
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Post by Farrell on Apr 13, 2012 13:36:06 GMT -8
But what is Paula's motive? The competing casinos are not relevant. She could just be acting suspicious on purpose ala Dr. Judy. Paula's voting is all over the place and rarely with the majority. She has no real motive. In fact, shes probably grateful for all those opportunities he gave her to increase her wealth. Sure, a little irked that Evan won't be providing those opportunities with his stopping the cons but hardly murderous. I do think she might be omitting some info, though. If shes an alien, why does she care about wealth? Can't she just grab a chunk of gold or something from an asteroid and be rich? The aliens want power and to spread the virus.
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Post by Annie McClarabow on Apr 13, 2012 13:36:27 GMT -8
But what is Paula's motive? The competing casinos are not relevant. She could just be acting suspicious on purpose ala Dr. Judy. Paula's voting is all over the place and rarely with the majority. Paula doesn't really have a motive based on what we know about her. She benefited from all of Evan's schemes, so she's probably grateful. Sure, a little irked that the gravy train is coming to an end (with Evan going straight), but hardly in a murderous rage. I do think she's been omitting some details of her backstory. But, maybe she just doesn't have much to tell.
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Post by Amer on Apr 13, 2012 22:07:51 GMT -8
Also I noticed that Paula's backstory and Erik's don't match - Paula said that Evan loaned the money to Erik but Erik called it a payoff. Paula's last post on the subject: I don't know anythng about paying Evan off...only that he fixed the fight that allowed me to realize a "huge profit." And from Paula's post on her backstory: Evan fixed the Stoneburner match for you, giving you enough initial money to make a killing on his fixed track races. In exchange for taking a dive, Evan loaned Stoneburner $25 million to get his business off the ground. And Erik's post on his backstory: Paula was at your last match, you imagine she had a fix in. ... Evan paid you to tank your last match. You needed money after losing a bunch at the PollyAnna Riverboat and casino several years ago. ... Also, while getting the payoff, you accidentally overheard Evan taking a payment from someone in exchange for preventing Mike Magoo from starting a riverboat casino. I don't see much going on here. I'd attribute it to a small error on Evan's part.
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Post by Paula - old account on Apr 13, 2012 22:26:06 GMT -8
Also I noticed that Paula's backstory and Erik's don't match - Paula said that Evan loaned the money to Erik but Erik called it a payoff. They can't both be correct. I'm willing to assume that Paula was being lucy goosey with her words but it would be great if she could confirm whether she was specifically advised that it was a "loan." Evan loaning $$$ to Erik was a direct quote from my backstory...I would have no reason to change that up.
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Post by Paula - old account on Apr 13, 2012 22:40:27 GMT -8
But what is Paula's motive? The competing casinos are not relevant. She could just be acting suspicious on purpose ala Dr. Judy. Paula's voting is all over the place and rarely with the majority. I've been "voting all over the place" because as I've stated time and time again I AM TOTALLY CONFUSED by the backstories, the alibis, the clues, the murder weapon and everything else! Kudos to those of you who have made any sense of this...although so far we've been getting screwed as a group. My "notes" amount to scribbles and arrows in all directions...not equiped to do the algorthim thing. My votes were just a stab in the dark with the hopes of getting lucky. Seriously, are there any concrete answers out there?
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Post by Erik Coppertop on Apr 14, 2012 6:14:11 GMT -8
Yes...you totally have me buying it....please keep going. HA
I am not the killer. How can I prove that my ALIBI is exactly that...the reason I am not the killer? Time of Death? Is there anything that someone can use to prove they are not guilty? This is bullshit. A flaw in the game? What was everyone else's alibis?
I took a payoff to tank my last match. What else do you have on me that makes me soooo dirty? I mean really?
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Post by Annie McClarabow on Apr 15, 2012 6:27:15 GMT -8
But what is Paula's motive? The competing casinos are not relevant. She could just be acting suspicious on purpose ala Dr. Judy. Paula's voting is all over the place and rarely with the majority. I've been "voting all over the place" because as I've stated time and time again I AM TOTALLY CONFUSED by the backstories, the alibis, the clues, the murder weapon and everything else! Kudos to those of you who have made any sense of this...although so far we've been getting screwed as a group. My "notes" amount to scribbles and arrows in all directions...not equiped to do the algorthim thing. My votes were just a stab in the dark with the hopes of getting lucky. Seriously, are there any concrete answers out there? We were saying that you and Son have stories that don't entirely jive. If you two could offer up an explanation, that would be helpful. Right now, it seems that on or both of you are still hiding information.
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Post by Annie McClarabow on Apr 15, 2012 11:49:08 GMT -8
Oh good. I'm glad to see the authorities are coming aboard. Maybe that get me off this murder boat.
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Post by Annie McClarabow on Apr 15, 2012 16:21:38 GMT -8
Wow! Inspector Tulley Mexico! That's better than Columbo!
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