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Post by Evan on Nov 13, 2013 10:53:17 GMT -8
I tried the first half of the first eppy of the following. I was confused. But I'll try it again.
I bet Annie might like Supernatural
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Post by Annie McClarabow on Nov 13, 2013 10:57:25 GMT -8
I tried the first half of the first eppy of the following. I was confused. But I'll try it again. I bet Annie might like Supernatural I'll give it a try. Anything is better than watching the same episodes of other stuff over and over and over...
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Post by Tulley Kennedy on Nov 13, 2013 11:16:13 GMT -8
Annie, did you get into Breaking Bad at all? I wonder if you would like it? <3 Did this ever get answered? Best show ever
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Post by Fatty McFatzzzz on Nov 13, 2013 13:37:11 GMT -8
Annie, did you get into Breaking Bad at all? I wonder if you would like it? <3 Did this ever get answered? Best show ever Wasn't Lost the best show ever?
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Post by Amer on Nov 13, 2013 14:09:51 GMT -8
These pretzels … are makin' me thirsty!
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Post by Evan on Nov 13, 2013 16:49:52 GMT -8
Did this ever get answered? Best show ever Wasn't Lost the best show ever? Not the best show... but the most intriguing, and definitely my favorite. I loved how I could think about the show for hours and hours in between episodes. It's really hard for me to get into straight dramas. There has to be a supernatural element and an overarching mystery to keep me watching. Speaking of best show, when did Wonder Years go up? I'm bawling so hard right now.
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Post by Annie McClarabow on Nov 13, 2013 19:29:50 GMT -8
Supernatural is a bit young for me. I can't relate to 22 year old protagonists. But they have Dexter on Netflix which is pretty great.
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Post by Farrell on Nov 13, 2013 20:21:32 GMT -8
Only one is 22 the other is 26, but they act older. It's not the vampire diaries.
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Post by Tulley Kennedy on Nov 13, 2013 21:20:45 GMT -8
Did this ever get answered? Best show ever Wasn't Lost the best show ever? Lost was the best network show ever. Maybe. As long as you stop watching before the last season.
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Post by Amer on Nov 13, 2013 23:38:35 GMT -8
I enjoyed Breaking Bad. The characters were likable, even if the writing was a bit hokey at times, but it was far from the best show ever. That award goes to The Sopranos — end of discussion. The West Wing gets the award for best network show. Those two shows duked it out for best drama every year: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Primetime_Emmy_Award_for_Outstanding_Drama_Series#SuperlativesBoth shows were nominated for Best Drama Series in each of their seasons. No show has won it more than The West Wing. The Sopranos smashed the record for most episodes nominated for Best Writing in a Drama with 21. That's out of 86 total episodes. 1/4th of The Sopranos episodes were considered the best writing of the year.
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Post by Evan on Nov 14, 2013 7:25:32 GMT -8
I know quite a few people who will say that The Wire is better thAn both Sopranos and WW
Upon multiple rewatches, I think season 6 of LOST holds its own as a decent season. Season 3 isnt as bad as I thought uppn first viewing, as well
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Post by Tulley Kennedy on Nov 14, 2013 7:48:15 GMT -8
I never watched the Sopranos or West Wing so I can't comment on their greatness. The Wire was the apotheosis of the crime/cop show, it was really amazing but it was no Breaking Bad.
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Post by Farrell on Nov 14, 2013 8:01:04 GMT -8
Game of thrones was/is the best show ever.
I liked the last season of lost if you cut out the entire flash sideways. Their should be a way to watch it that tush ll that bs out.
I liked season 1 of the sopranos, rest didn't live up to it. Best line ever, "I can't believe psychiatry and cunnilingus has brought us to this point."
Deadwood was really good. Carnivale too.
I just finished white queen on starz, it was okay. Their da Vinci show was better.
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Post by True Ingéneurs on Nov 14, 2013 8:46:53 GMT -8
deadwood and carnivale are 2 of my faves fo sho. I just finished ssn 1 of once upon a time. tehe. I can get passed the cheesiness and it's worth the effort.
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Post by Fatty McFatzzzz on Nov 14, 2013 9:38:30 GMT -8
I think its funny how we claim things are the BSE when there is so much out there and our window of memory is so very small.
I have watched many shows and I cant claim anything was the best ever. There are shows that one really likes and should be recommended. But throwing out Best Ever just isn't accurate.
Debating what one thinks is a good show is fine but calling a show Best Ever should not be allowed.
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Post by Evan on Nov 14, 2013 10:24:36 GMT -8
I think its funny how we claim things are the BSE when there is so much out there and our window of memory is so very small. I have watched many shows and I cant claim anything was the best ever. There are shows that one really likes and should be recommended. But throwing out Best Ever just isn't accurate. Debating what one thinks is a good show is fine but calling a show Best Ever should not be allowed. At the risk of hubris, I say I can make that claim. I have a Master's degree in TV, Radio, and Media. Even for shows I never got into or disliked I've likely watched a few episodes, read a few scripts, and analyzed the production from a critical viewpoint. On that note, here are some more dramas that should enter the discussion for American BSE (I'm excluding sitcoms because that's a whole other ball game): - Hill Street Blues - Gunsmoke - ER - The Twilight Zone - L.A. Law - Mad Men My main problem when trying to pick a winner is quality consistency. Every show we've named had some dynamite episodes (usually during Sweeps months), but they've all had a lot of boring episodes and even some stinkers. That's why I'm leaning towards the Wire. Cop shows aren't my thing at all, and I've probably seen 5 episodes, but I'm yet to hear about an eppy that wasn't riveting and super smart. This could be selective bias, though so feel free to prove me wrong.
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Post by Farrell on Nov 14, 2013 10:29:52 GMT -8
Of course it's all hyperbole. But it's fun to discuss. Besides I left off the new doctor who, that is clearly the BSE.
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Post by Super Sarah on Nov 14, 2013 10:35:42 GMT -8
I totally agree about Mad Men and Twilight Zone... I haven't seen much of any of the others listed.
I have a lot of favorites or shows I really like that I completely forget about a couple months later. I had a film professor say that good or bad isn't as important as how memorable a piece is.
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Post by Evan on Nov 14, 2013 10:39:11 GMT -8
Doctor who is british, though. Its harder for me to analyze foreign shows because Im not familiar with the societal backdrop.
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Post by Amer on Nov 14, 2013 12:32:47 GMT -8
My main problem when trying to pick a winner is quality consistency. Every show we've named had some dynamite episodes (usually during Sweeps months), but they've all had a lot of boring episodes and even some stinkers. That's why I'm leaning towards the Wire. Cop shows aren't my thing at all, and I've probably seen 5 episodes, but I'm yet to hear about an eppy that wasn't riveting and super smart. This could be selective bias, though so feel free to prove me wrong. Like I said, 1/4th of The Sopranos episodes were nominated for best writing of the year. The Wire had 2 episodes nominated total, and The Sopranos averaged 3 episodes nominated per season. I'm not saying that the Emmys determine what the best shows are, but it says a lot. The Writer's Guild of America also listed The Sopranos as the best written show ever, which, again, says a lot. (Seinfeld was #2, by the way. Suck it!) The Wire was a good show; fun to watch; had likable characters; had a nice story arc. I think it presented itself in a way that no other show has, really. The writing in each episode, however, doesn't wow you. The Sopranos has very smart writing. I don't know if people like Evan and Farrell can appreciate it, though, because you people appear to prefer shows that are extreme and fantastic (GoT, Lost, etc.) rather than real. No character in The Sopranos stands out as larger than life. They're all just working class slobs from Jersey, who happen to be in the mob. It's all real and gritty, and their actions are the result of their environment. There's a lot of psychology behind each of the stories (unsurprisingly). Some people argued that The Sopranos glorified violence, but if you pay attention, there is not a single happy person on the show. (By the way, if you like shows where everyone's life is misery, watch Downton Abbey). The first episode of The Sopranos that I saw, which immediately had me hooked, was the finale of season 2: Funhouse. It's a surreal episode with dream sequences that shows the great writing and gritty reality of the show. If you're only going to watch one episode of The Sopranos, watch that one, but be warned, crazy shit goes down. A lot of shit had been building to that point for two years, which you miss out on. The actors were distraught and angry when they read the script. I think its funny how we claim things are the BSE when there is so much out there and our window of memory is so very small. If you can't remember it, it wasn't that good. Or you have memory problems. I also watch my favorite shows more than once. For The Sopranos (and now Game of Thrones), I would re-watch the previous episode right before watching the new episode, and re-watch the entire previous season right before the new season started. I also re-watched The Sopranos this year, and I plan to re-watch The West Wing, Deadwood, and Rome. These are all shows that I didn't just like — I enjoyed the process of watching them. I wouldn't re-watch Lost or Mad Men or Breaking Bad. I watched those shows for the story, and now that I know that story, they no longer hold interest for me (even though I like them). But for my favorite shows, it's about the journey, not the destination.
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