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Post by Ron Wednesday on Apr 16, 2020 10:59:06 GMT -8
So who? In the past, we usually just went after folks who didn't bother to post/participate at this stage. This is certainly a mixed approach since 'bad guys' tend to be more engaged, human nature to poke the bear and all. Though if I remember some past groups where I was in the evils, we usually picked a few people to be silent and a few to not be. Someone with more time than I could go to the record books and check early activy as an indicator of evildom. Of course, even saying this, I might be influeing the participation they will do. Either way, just from a gamesmanship perspective, elimiating less active has been our strategy, though I'm dubious it works.
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Post by Judy on Apr 16, 2020 11:09:24 GMT -8
To vote or not to vote. Thinking back, I've played in all of these mind-boggling walks through the desert. Do I remember the rules? There were rules? Normally, I would say "shoot the bastards" and let's get on with it. But, this time we're all trapped in our caves and desperate for any break in boredom (we're playing this game, aren't we?). So I say NO vote. Give us a fighting chance to break the monotony (and distinguish between night and day, or Tuesday from June). Or, throw in a curve, let us all vote but don't count it-- that would really screw with our minds.
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Post by bsketchy on Apr 16, 2020 11:44:23 GMT -8
We should certainly kill someone. Yes, it *might* be totally random, though Farrell advocating for not does put a target IMO. But here is the thing, nighttime, it's 100% a good guy will die all things equal. Daytime, it's 50% goodguy, 50% badguy if we vote. So, at end of week with vote, it's 1.5x chance good guy dies, .5x bad guy. Without a vote, it's 1x Good guy dies. Also, without voting, people won't talk, slow channel, which means we also get less chance of revealing anything. Only a bad guy would advocate for status quo when status quo is the slow death of the good. (Are we talking about mildville or politcs?) Evan can answer this for sure, but aren't there more good guys than bad guys to start? So it's a greater than 50% chance that a good guy dies.
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Post by Mike Lenin on Apr 16, 2020 12:07:45 GMT -8
I’m not one for long term strategy. I prefer McGyver like thinking. So it will be good to get some baddies talking good strategy. I suggest that is in the best interest of baddies to sacrifice one of their own. Not quite ready to lead the charge of throwing Amer to the wolves but am definitely interested in what he has to say.
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Post by stinkypete on Apr 16, 2020 13:49:57 GMT -8
We should certainly kill someone. Yes, it *might* be totally random, though Farrell advocating for not does put a target IMO. But here is the thing, nighttime, it's 100% a good guy will die all things equal. Daytime, it's 50% goodguy, 50% badguy if we vote. So, at end of week with vote, it's 1.5x chance good guy dies, .5x bad guy. Without a vote, it's 1x Good guy dies. Also, without voting, people won't talk, slow channel, which means we also get less chance of revealing anything. Only a bad guy would advocate for status quo when status quo is the slow death of the good. (Are we talking about mildville or politcs?) Evan can answer this for sure, but aren't there more good guys than bad guys to start? So it's a greater than 50% chance that a good guy dies. That's right, the moment it becomes 50/50 the bad guys win. Randomness tends to push us toward that equilibrium. So do we want to end the week with one good guy dead, or two? Killing someone during the day means they can't use their power at night. Dying at night at least gives us that 24 hours to tell everyone what we did with our powers that same night
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Post by Ron Wednesday on Apr 16, 2020 15:18:16 GMT -8
Evan can answer this for sure, but aren't there more good guys than bad guys to start? So it's a greater than 50% chance that a good guy dies. That's right, the moment it becomes 50/50 the bad guys win. Randomness tends to push us toward that equilibrium. So do we want to end the week with one good guy dead, or two? Killing someone during the day means they can't use their power at night. Dying at night at least gives us that 24 hours to tell everyone what we did with our powers that same night I mean, sure if everytime was random only, it would push to that, but it's weighted because bad guys get 1 kill either way such that inaction dooms us and delaying the inevitable choice of killing someone just puts our numbers at a worse spot next week. It's not dice roll till we end, we only get so many actions before we're out, and not voting effectivly removes one of our 8 or 9 chances. Voting is a rare decision point that's revealed to all, so it's removing a data point. If we hit a person good or bad, we learn some votes. And until night is over, I'm not convinced how much we will learn since it's so often rare we get anythign but a bunch of random data and lies(Though I havne't actually read all the night rules I guess). But whatever, I'm not that sure of this, it just feels non-mildvillian to peaceful go about our day mob free.
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Post by Buzzfly on Apr 16, 2020 20:21:32 GMT -8
Agreed, let's wipe out the un-participatory
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Post by Farrell on Apr 16, 2020 20:33:46 GMT -8
None of the above Attachments:
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Post by stinkypete on Apr 17, 2020 7:41:43 GMT -8
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Post by Ron Wednesday on Apr 17, 2020 9:04:03 GMT -8
Someone posted we should probably leave this thread open for actual votes(my bad on this too). Moving to the other thread for discussion. While it's generally against my life policy to make Evan's life easier, in this case, I think it's a good idea.
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Post by annie2 on Apr 17, 2020 11:22:36 GMT -8
Someone posted we should probably leave this thread open for actual votes(my bad on this too). Moving to the other thread for discussion. While it's generally against my life policy to make Evan's life easier, in this case, I think it's a good idea. yes, for clarity's sake. I think everyone has posted now so non-participation doesn't seem like a place to start.
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Post by Evan on Apr 19, 2020 10:04:32 GMT -8
============ Day 1 is over. Noone was eliminated.
Night cycle starts now and ends Tuesday at 11 AM PST.
Message me your night actions.
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Post by Farrell on Apr 23, 2020 14:30:40 GMT -8
When is day 2 voting over?
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Post by stinkypete on Apr 23, 2020 15:23:57 GMT -8
Sunday at 12 I believe
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Post by Farrell on Apr 23, 2020 15:46:25 GMT -8
Its in the headline on the front page,
Deadline for voting day 2 is Saturday 4/26 at 11 AM PST. 9 votes needed to eliminate
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Post by stinkypete on Apr 23, 2020 15:57:22 GMT -8
Wait, but we started on Tuesday, then Night started 12pm on Sunday, then Day started again Tuesday at 12. Why wouldn't the deadline be Sunday again?
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Post by Evan on Apr 23, 2020 20:24:56 GMT -8
Wait, but we started on Tuesday, then Night started 12pm on Sunday, then Day started again Tuesday at 12. Why wouldn't the deadline be Sunday again? Hmm, yeah, it should be on Sunday, I will double check tomorrow and change things if need be
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Post by Farrell on Apr 25, 2020 12:38:04 GMT -8
Guess I’ll start it off. Wednesday.
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Post by stinkypete on Apr 25, 2020 14:35:56 GMT -8
Okay, we have to converge on something, this is where we have the most objective information, and sometimes you have to take a machete to all the little excuses and qualifications and plausible doubts. I vote to eliminate Wednesday. Just look at this. I couldn't find any basis for this post in the thread it was posted in. The only other person whose post could be construed as "wanting to see death" was Sarah's. So "a reasonable amount of people wanting to see death" is 2 people out of 18. Maybe three if you take Merlot's first post seriously. I think we have a reasonable amount of people wanting to see death. I'm good with killing a non participant. There are usually some evil players in that group and it's generally gamey, anyone got an easy list of those not posted yet? I say we go with the alphabetically first in the list? Or how about a dice roll? We can get the runtime of Trumps rant tonight and use the last two digits as a count? ^^That was a day after this post: We should certainly kill someone. Yes, it *might* be totally random, though Farrell advocating for not does put a target IMO. But here is the thing, nighttime, it's 100% a good guy will die all things equal. Daytime, it's 50% goodguy, 50% badguy if we vote. So, at end of week with vote, it's 1.5x chance good guy dies, .5x bad guy. Without a vote, it's 1x Good guy dies. Also, without voting, people won't talk, slow channel, which means we also get less chance of revealing anything. Only a bad guy would advocate for status quo when status quo is the slow death of the good. (Are we talking about mildville or politcs?) I'm trained by an adversarial relationship with cable news to spot this attempt to work the perception of public opinion like clay
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Post by Ron Wednesday on Apr 25, 2020 20:48:37 GMT -8
Okay, we have to converge on something, this is where we have the most objective information, and sometimes you have to take a machete to all the little excuses and qualifications and plausible doubts. I vote to eliminate Wednesday. Just look at this. I couldn't find any basis for this post in the thread it was posted in. The only other person whose post could be construed as "wanting to see death" was Sarah's. So "a reasonable amount of people wanting to see death" is 2 people out of 18. Maybe three if you take Merlot's first post seriously. I think we have a reasonable amount of people wanting to see death. I'm good with killing a non participant. There are usually some evil players in that group and it's generally gamey, anyone got an easy list of those not posted yet? I say we go with the alphabetically first in the list? Or how about a dice roll? We can get the runtime of Trumps rant tonight and use the last two digits as a count? ^^That was a day after this post: We should certainly kill someone. Yes, it *might* be totally random, though Farrell advocating for not does put a target IMO. But here is the thing, nighttime, it's 100% a good guy will die all things equal. Daytime, it's 50% goodguy, 50% badguy if we vote. So, at end of week with vote, it's 1.5x chance good guy dies, .5x bad guy. Without a vote, it's 1x Good guy dies. Also, without voting, people won't talk, slow channel, which means we also get less chance of revealing anything. Only a bad guy would advocate for status quo when status quo is the slow death of the good. (Are we talking about mildville or politcs?) I'm trained by an adversarial relationship with cable news to spot this attempt to work the perception of public opinion like clay Awwwee thanks pete! Can I use this on my application for cable news??? I'd make a great cable new personality. Let me explain team, this is all really quite simple. It's kind of like. . . gunna find my baby, gunna hold her tight. Gunna grab some afternoon delight. My motto's always been when it's right, it's right, why wait until the middle of a cold dark night. (all together now crew) When everything's a little clearer in the light of day. And we know the night is always gonna be there any way. (now go high everyone!) Thinkin' of you's workin' up my appetite, looking forward to a little afternoon delight, rubbin sticks and stones together makes the sparks ingite and the thought of lovin' you is getting so exciting. Sky rockets in flight. (beooooooo!)Afternoon delight (yooouoooop) - Ron Burgandy (Yes, I could be #worstbadguyever or also #sillyAF, so like burning on trump, movies, etc. . .)
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