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Post by Evan on May 8, 2020 17:14:40 GMT -8
Day 5 ends aSunday at 6 PM PST
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Post by merlotbrougham on May 8, 2020 18:33:34 GMT -8
So everybody who targets Annie gets blocked, yet she says the only ability she has is to switch players, which doesn't even sound like an ability that would benefit the heroes at all and would only have utility for the villains.
Annie, I am voting for you unless you can explain yourself.
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annie2
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Post by annie2 on May 9, 2020 6:30:12 GMT -8
You make assumptions. If someone tried to do something to me and the action failed, there could be another reason other than being blocked. Or someone with a blocking power is just blindly using it or using it on someone they find suspicious. Consider your motivations behind your distrust.
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Post by merlotbrougham on May 9, 2020 7:46:20 GMT -8
You make assumptions. If someone tried to do something to me and the action failed, there could be another reason other than being blocked. Or someone with a blocking power is just blindly using it or using it on someone they find suspicious. Consider your motivations behind your distrust. Ok, but my question isn't about game mechanics. I do understand those concepts. Please explain what you did you do on Nights 1, 3 and 4.
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Post by annie2 on May 9, 2020 10:06:05 GMT -8
That wasn't your question but i have no problem answering. Night one 1 I chose at random and it failed. Night two i tried to switch judy and ron and it failed. I didn't switch anyone the last two nights because i don't know who to switch. It is a useful power to trip up villains but no one has talked to me about who to target.
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Post by Mike Lenin on May 9, 2020 10:11:19 GMT -8
Maybe we can deconstruct night 1?
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Post by merlotbrougham on May 9, 2020 10:32:08 GMT -8
That wasn't your question but i have no problem answering. Night one 1 I chose at random and it failed. Night two i tried to switch judy and ron and it failed. I didn't switch anyone the last two nights because i don't know who to switch. It is a useful power to trip up villains but no one has talked to me about who to target. If you chose at random on night 1, who did you end up choosing, even if it failed? That is important information.
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Post by stinkypete on May 9, 2020 11:34:30 GMT -8
By the time I realized I had put this in the wrong place, it was already night time Overview of Son's plan and reactions Amer was a hero and he had advocated for not voting if I recall. I still think we need everyone to publicly declare in the open that they are not a villain. Then the hero's may be able to use their powers in some way to try and figure out who may be lying. Without this we have no more information than we had last week really. I am not a villain. Either way, I'll say it as well. I am not a villain. If I were Mayor that power would sound like a nightmare, but there's certainly no cost to hope for it, so may as well cast the net I am not a villain. I am a hero. Always have been except for that time before they invented laws. I gotta say I'm leaning toward Occam's Razor to explain Wednesday's behavior. I may have been looking for easy answers in some reactions that were merely born of frustration. But Wednesday is still an attractive sacrifice because of the slightly elevated probability and the limited power. People who were rallying for random elimination last week and then got real quiet all of a sudden should get their due probing. It would be almost like the U-formation tactic to coax a mark into advocating that policy and then to leave them holding the bag Merlot? Buzz? Mike? You have any reason to dispute this characterization? First things first: I am good. I don't believe anyone has the power to see good or evil, but I could be wrong. Another part of the mystique of all this is none of us know what anyone else can do. Based on the known powers, identifying a liar will take a bit of luck, and would go something like this: 1) Player A states they are good 2) Player B watches Player C at night, and sees that Player A paid them a visit 3) In the morning, Player C is dead Now Player B knows that Player A was the only person who visited the hero who died last night, identifies them as a dirty dirty liar, and shouts it from the tallest building in Mildtropolis. That being said, I don't exactly know how the villains kill. Is there a villain vote? Is there one assigned killer? Do they rotate? Things should start to become more and more clear as the game goes on, and the population dwindles. From what has been posted, it appears there are no good leads on who visited Amer last night. I have nothing more to offer, as my power doesn't allow me to watch or track anyone. Personally, I haven't seen anything that provides a good argument for or against any one person. Well, except Amer. I'm 100% sure he was good. Won't everyone say they are a hero? I don't see how this helps... But I'll do it. I'm good. It’s based on an assumed power...something to the effect of seeing if a player lied on a specific post. I’m not a villain but I don’t think it’s gonna be that easy... (How right you were) I'm a hero. I thinking voting for someone who advocated voting last week is a good choice. Its better than randomly killing someone. I think Wed and Bsketchy fit that bill. Merlot did vote as well but he voted for Bsketchy and he seems to be a newbie. Yeah, confused by this 'say we're not a villian thing' but sure. I'm a hero here was well, which maybe Amer even helped prove this? Do we know if bad guys have powers like us? Like why would they want to check on people's visitations and such since they know who everyone is. Plus, double votes and protecting people all seem like pretty powerful when they can coordinate all their moves. It they do have powers like that, seems pretty broken. I'll still never to understand why advocating against inactions puts a target on me. Clearly each week we get fewer good guys and our powers haven't revealed much. But it's fine too, if you kill me, then I'll be revealed as good and I can't really be that against it since even that would at least force people to vote which I've been advocating from the beggining. Plus, maybe then you can go back and find the subtle lurkers pushing inaction or killing me but not being loud about it, which are often more likely the bad guys. Being a true stickler for gameplay, secrets and abilities are usually kept a secret in games like Mildville (Werewolf, Town of Salem, etc) for a reason. Any person can claim to be any role and have any super power. With that being said, I want fellow citizens to know that I am good and believe in the heroes of Mildville. 1. As a group, the heroes advantage is our votes, because that's the only way we can get rid of villains. There's likely not a vigilante "power" (i.e. A hero with a night kill ability), or two people would have died overnight. 2. If we're not voting, regardless of what we do with our night actions, the villains are free to kill one hero every night until they even the numbers and win. At a certain point, we would have to kill perfectly every consecutve day without hitting a single hero. Example: Assume there are 6 villains out of 18 players. That would mean there are 12 heros. In this example, they only need to kill 6 heroes in order to win. So lets say we don't vote to kill for 5 days, and they only need one more to win. In order to stop that from happening, would HAVE to kill a villian in order to survive until the next day, and every day after that, so the pressure's on. Without enough information, we are shooting completely blind. There are two types of key information can accumulate as heroes in order to flush out the vilians: Who people choose to vote for and why, as well as our night actions. We are completely cutting off one source of information by not voting. 3. If we're not voting, our only other power in this game is our nights abilities, but nobody knows the entire picture. If everybody claims what they did and the result they got, we may be able to piece it together enough to find the liars and have a better chance of hitting a villain before we reach the point of no return. Thoughts? Re #2 I’ve been thinking about the same thing - how long can we wait to vote until it’s a problem? The example assumes there are 6 villains but we won’t know for sure until the end (but it’s probably 6). So this week does it make sense to vote someone out in order to get more information? Or can we afford one more week? I’m definitely a good superhero btw 🦸🏼♀️ Then there was "2nd vote" thread, which ended in this ok, non delcarers left. If i missed you just declare again, people have been posting all over the place. ZacJudy jesse neutrinostabby mike which errantly included Zac and was followed by Mike declaring. So we have Neutrino, Stabby, and Codemonkey who didn't play along Additionally, Annie and Trebec both said "I'm good" instead of "I am a hero"
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Post by annie2 on May 9, 2020 12:10:14 GMT -8
Had to confirm night one efforts. Itried to switch Stabby and BSketchy.
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Post by Mike Lenin on May 9, 2020 12:33:52 GMT -8
ANNIE IS A VILLAIN!!
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Post by bsketchy on May 9, 2020 12:52:39 GMT -8
Had to confirm night one efforts. Itried to switch Stabby and BSketchy. To clarify, you didn't fully understand your power, but decided to use it at random... Just to see what would happen? It's a pretty great power, and you used it rather irresponsibly. That's not something heroes do. Did you learn nothing from Spiderman? I don't see how switching us just for the sake of switching would benefit Team Hero in any way. I believe your true self has been exposed.
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Post by Stabby on May 9, 2020 15:03:20 GMT -8
Annie can you provide the exact description of your power from Evan?
FYI, you have 4 out of the 6 needed people to vote you off. I'll unvote you to give you "some" breathing room. But if you hold off information, I'll quickly vote you back up.
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Post by Mike Lenin on May 9, 2020 16:07:50 GMT -8
I want to add a small wrinkle...by no means is Annie off the hook.
yo buzzfly, what’s your take on Annies predicament? You know Annie was set to vote you off a few weeks back. You gonna help us with some business?
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Post by Jesse "Codemonkey" Young on May 9, 2020 17:57:39 GMT -8
Additionally, Annie and Trebec both said "I'm good" instead of "I am a hero" Digging through some of Annie's posts to find that exact one: Won't everyone say they are a hero? I don't see how this helps... But I'll do it. I'm good. Son had the power to ask if somebody was telling the truth, I'm guessing he asked on this post and the dubiousness of the word "good" may have "blocked" it. I used my power on Annie but it was blocked. She's a veterean player and I was suspicious of her questioning the value of the declarations as it would give us an angle to get some information. The fact I was blocked makes me more suspect of her. I am on the chopping block for the villains now I am assuming. How could reports from dead people who only had the power to know the other is innocent help? Son died that night. I'm jumping in with the kill Annie mob.
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Post by Stabby on May 9, 2020 18:01:38 GMT -8
It says Annie is online... and I'm giving her a small olive branch... If she doesn't in a couple of hours (2 hours max). I'll let the gazette tell me what her power says.
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Post by Mike Lenin on May 9, 2020 18:51:14 GMT -8
Glad that codemonkey came out of the woodwork on this one. We still need some other folks to jump on the melee wagon. I love the ideas of villains cannibalizing themselves publicly especially at this juncture.
if Annie is a villain, which there is totally good reason to believe because her story is not compelling, people who are not jumping aboard on this feast now shall soon be considered suspect, and shall be feasted upon.
What I’m saying is there is room at the table:)
We’re at 4 votes now and we have enough to execute. I feel good about Code, Merlot, Stabby and Stinky as a good human crew.
I definitely want to hear what buzzfly says regarding Annie!
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Post by stinkypete on May 9, 2020 19:01:17 GMT -8
Either that or you, Stabby, Merlot, and Code are knocking it out of the park this year
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Post by Mike Lenin on May 9, 2020 19:17:04 GMT -8
I wish I was that sophisticated. Gonna go with achmeds razor on this one:)
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Post by Stabby on May 9, 2020 20:06:52 GMT -8
I given Annie ample of time. Time to vote her up.
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