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Post by Mike Lenin on May 19, 2020 18:36:25 GMT -8
To be clear, your case against me is that I've done nothing to arouse suspicion? I mean, I get it, but I'm also the only one here who never had the privilege of performing any night actions. Merlot and I have been discussing all the game activity almost daily. He's had far more direct interaction with me than anyone. Merlot - do you agree with Mike's claim that I have done a perfect job of not arousing suspicion since day 1? Yes, this is the crux of my argument.
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Post by Mike Lenin on May 19, 2020 19:09:34 GMT -8
Plus Bsketchy is really good at games! He has owned in a lot of the game nights. Suggesting he's good at understanding mechanics of games. So with no reasonable explanation, bsketchy is very villanous
Where have you been with helping us find the remaining villain?!
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Post by Mike Lenin on May 20, 2020 7:14:40 GMT -8
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It’s a compelling idea to think that baketchy played the game too perfectly and that makes him villain. That was a plot line one season on mad men when don drapers signature was forged too perfectly. Bsketchy has been solid this season. And Merlot has a lot of super hero equity from the Annie and Trebec reveals.
So in search for truth, I’d like the remaining heroes to consider stabbys public interactions with Chris, public interactions with Annie, and public interactions Trebec. No accusations, no conflict. He Kinda pulled back on Annie. The nominating Chris thing could have been a strategic play in an end game strategy
As Chris went to the gallows me and Merlot didn’t want to vote to be too hasty.
Admittedly. I have played the game terribly and none of my logical processes have been too sound. So my cred is shit. But I know I’m a hero and that’s what makes things frustrating.
Stabby has tried hard to reconcile his image. To get bsketchy and me against Merlot. All the while using frayed logic and lying to me.
If I were held to a vote today, I would consider stabby as primary villain candidate because he lied to a lot of people to get to this dance. But I still wouldn’t rule out bsketchy, because he was deceptive with me when I threw out accusations against code monkey privately and he led me to believe that codemonkey could be a villain even when he had privileged information that codemonkey was a twin .
Still stabby held back information and never came across as trust worthy. My trade for reveal for my power to him was in exchange for something. That was To vote off Annie who Merlot had eviscerated to the point where the other villain voted her off (Chris mac)
Therefore, if someone were to hold a scythe to my head, stabby has my vote for final villain.
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Post by merlotbrougham on May 20, 2020 7:24:49 GMT -8
. It’s a compelling idea to think that baketchy played the game too perfectly and that makes him villain. That was a plot line one season on mad men when don drapers signature was forged too perfectly. Bsketchy has been solid this season. And Merlot has a lot of super hero equity from the Annie and Trebec reveals. So in search for truth, I’d like the remaining heroes to consider stabbys public interactions with Chris, public interactions with Annie, and public interactions Trebec. No accusations, no conflict. He Kinda pulled back on Annie. The nominating Chris thing could have been a strategic play in an end game strategy As Chris went to the gallows me and Merlot didn’t want to vote to be too hasty. Admittedly. I have played the game terribly and none of my logical processes have been too sound. So my cred is shit. But I know I’m a hero and that’s what makes things frustrating. Stabby has tried hard to reconcile his image. To get bsketchy and me against Merlot. All the while using frayed logic and lying to me. If I were held to a vote today, I would consider stabby as primary villain candidate because he lied to a lot of people to get to this dance. But I still wouldn’t rule out bsketchy, because he was deceptive with me when I threw out accusations against code monkey privately and he led me to believe that codemonkey could be a villain even when he had privileged information that codemonkey was a twin . Still stabby held back information and never came across as trust worthy. My trade for reveal for my power to him was in exchange for something. That was To vote off Annie who Merlot had eviscerated to the point where the other villain voted her off (Chris mac) Therefore, if someone were to hold a scythe to my head, stabby has my vote for final villain. The night actions and mod-confirmation about previous incorrect results determine that last nights results were accurate. Stabby cannot be the villain. As was mentioned before, I am working today but will add more later as I continue putting together the data from the new night result corrections.
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Post by Stabby on May 20, 2020 7:27:58 GMT -8
Evan, can we get a day extension? like 1 extra day? Due to all of my reasonings based on yesterday was a false discrepancy...
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Post by Stabby on May 20, 2020 7:33:36 GMT -8
. It’s a compelling idea to think that baketchy played the game too perfectly and that makes him villain. That was a plot line one season on mad men when don drapers signature was forged too perfectly. Bsketchy has been solid this season. And Merlot has a lot of super hero equity from the Annie and Trebec reveals. So in search for truth, I’d like the remaining heroes to consider stabbys public interactions with Chris, public interactions with Annie, and public interactions Trebec. No accusations, no conflict. He Kinda pulled back on Annie. The nominating Chris thing could have been a strategic play in an end game strategy As Chris went to the gallows me and Merlot didn’t want to vote to be too hasty. Admittedly. I have played the game terribly and none of my logical processes have been too sound. So my cred is shit. But I know I’m a hero and that’s what makes things frustrating. Stabby has tried hard to reconcile his image. To get bsketchy and me against Merlot. All the while using frayed logic and lying to me. If I were held to a vote today, I would consider stabby as primary villain candidate because he lied to a lot of people to get to this dance. But I still wouldn’t rule out bsketchy, because he was deceptive with me when I threw out accusations against code monkey privately and he led me to believe that codemonkey could be a villain even when he had privileged information that codemonkey was a twin . Still stabby held back information and never came across as trust worthy. My trade for reveal for my power to him was in exchange for something. That was To vote off Annie who Merlot had eviscerated to the point where the other villain voted her off (Chris mac) Therefore, if someone were to hold a scythe to my head, stabby has my vote for final villain. ಠ_ಠ Dafaq. You blocked me last night. Your block was successful. I can't have the 'kiss of death' BECAUSE you blocked successfully. The last villain HAS the kiss of death. Again. Dafaq?
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Post by merlotbrougham on May 20, 2020 7:37:54 GMT -8
I also watched Stabby visit nobody, confirming he was blocked, which means, Mike, you are also telling the truth about successfully blocking Stabby.
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Post by Mike Lenin on May 20, 2020 7:55:42 GMT -8
. It’s a compelling idea to think that baketchy played the game too perfectly and that makes him villain. That was a plot line one season on mad men when don drapers signature was forged too perfectly. Bsketchy has been solid this season. And Merlot has a lot of super hero equity from the Annie and Trebec reveals. So in search for truth, I’d like the remaining heroes to consider stabbys public interactions with Chris, public interactions with Annie, and public interactions Trebec. No accusations, no conflict. He Kinda pulled back on Annie. The nominating Chris thing could have been a strategic play in an end game strategy As Chris went to the gallows me and Merlot didn’t want to vote to be too hasty. Admittedly. I have played the game terribly and none of my logical processes have been too sound. So my cred is shit. But I know I’m a hero and that’s what makes things frustrating. Stabby has tried hard to reconcile his image. To get bsketchy and me against Merlot. All the while using frayed logic and lying to me. If I were held to a vote today, I would consider stabby as primary villain candidate because he lied to a lot of people to get to this dance. But I still wouldn’t rule out bsketchy, because he was deceptive with me when I threw out accusations against code monkey privately and he led me to believe that codemonkey could be a villain even when he had privileged information that codemonkey was a twin . Still stabby held back information and never came across as trust worthy. My trade for reveal for my power to him was in exchange for something. That was To vote off Annie who Merlot had eviscerated to the point where the other villain voted her off (Chris mac) Therefore, if someone were to hold a scythe to my head, stabby has my vote for final villain. ಠ_ಠ Dafaq. You blocked me last night. Your block was successful. I can't have the 'kiss of death' BECAUSE you blocked successfully. The last villain HAS the kiss of death. o fl Again. Dafaq? I still don't understand this game mechanic fully, but if it vindicates you, and if it vindicates Merlot then all the better. I'm sorry for raising awareness and making another allegation. We've been going around in circles with this and it is terribly confusing! If Merlot is vindicated, and you are vindicated, then that leaves me and Bsketchy, and if it's between me and bsketchy, I ask that you to consider throwing out reasoning out the window, because I am not a villain, and it would mean, that he would have played a flawless game (which clearly I have not). But remember, this is a guy that has owned mildville game nights hard. He understands mechanics and strategies to games, which clearly, earnestly, and honestly, despite me being a mildville veteran, I have been both a terrible hero, which doesn't preclude me from being a good villain, but in your heart of hearts, do you believe that I am that saavy? Or more of a hero with a recreational drug abuse problem who flocks to escapism.
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Post by Mike Lenin on May 20, 2020 7:57:09 GMT -8
I also watched Stabby visit nobody, confirming he was blocked, which means, Mike, you are also telling the truth about successfully blocking Stabby. Yes, I am telling the truth... But didn't Evan confirm that villains can have two nightmoves? I still don't understand this, but if you and Stabby agree that it makes sense, then I'm on board.
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Post by Stabby on May 20, 2020 8:09:51 GMT -8
... I ask that you to consider throwing out reasoning out the window, because I am not a villain ... Reasoning is the only thing why I haven't voted for you yet
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Post by Stabby on May 20, 2020 8:12:54 GMT -8
Bsketchy, mind giving your 2 cents?
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Post by Mike Lenin on May 20, 2020 8:16:16 GMT -8
Ahh thank you!
IRL I've yelled at a lot of police officers and got my money's worth. It's no disrespect to you or Merlot or bssketchy.
I feel like how we handled the data snafu was very telling of our positions.
Consider, though, that there is a modicum of reasoning to profile bsketchy as an extremely intelligent player who played the game perfectly as a villain to get to this point.
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Post by bsketchy on May 20, 2020 8:20:54 GMT -8
Bsketchy, mind giving your 2 cents? I'm working on it... give me a few minutes.
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Post by Mike Lenin on May 20, 2020 8:33:51 GMT -8
. It’s a compelling idea to think that baketchy played the game too perfectly and that makes him villain. That was a plot line one season on mad men when don drapers signature was forged too perfectly. Bsketchy has been solid this season. And Merlot has a lot of super hero equity from the Annie and Trebec reveals. So in search for truth, I’d like the remaining heroes to consider stabbys public interactions with Chris, public interactions with Annie, and public interactions Trebec. No accusations, no conflict. He Kinda pulled back on Annie. The nominating Chris thing could have been a strategic play in an end game strategy As Chris went to the gallows me and Merlot didn’t want to vote to be too hasty. Admittedly. I have played the game terribly and none of my logical processes have been too sound. So my cred is shit. But I know I’m a hero and that’s what makes things frustrating. Stabby has tried hard to reconcile his image. To get bsketchy and me against Merlot. All the while using frayed logic and lying to me. If I were held to a vote today, I would consider stabby as primary villain candidate because he lied to a lot of people to get to this dance. But I still wouldn’t rule out bsketchy, because he was deceptive with me when I threw out accusations against code monkey privately and he led me to believe that codemonkey could be a villain even when he had privileged information that codemonkey was a twin . Still stabby held back information and never came across as trust worthy. My trade for reveal for my power to him was in exchange for something. That was To vote off Annie who Merlot had eviscerated to the point where the other villain voted her off (Chris mac) Therefore, if someone were to hold a scythe to my head, stabby has my vote for final villain. ಠ_ಠ Dafaq. You blocked me last night. Your block was successful. I can't have the 'kiss of death' BECAUSE you blocked successfully. The last villain HAS the kiss of death. Again. Dafaq? g bloc To honor code monkeys memory, I realize, that It wasn't me that threw out an accusation against code monkey. My memory of the exchange was a bit hasty. In this private exchange, I suggested to bsketchy that I was willing to unlearn things, and he offered up codemonkey and stabby as villanous. And in reconstructing it, with codemonkeys death, it was a nudge to make me think that stabby was villanous.
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Post by bsketchy on May 20, 2020 8:43:45 GMT -8
That's the worst possible choice, Mike. Stabby is completely exonerated based on last night's actions. As we know, the kiss of death is unblockable, gets passed down to the next villain up, and does not replace their original power. Since Mike's block of Stabby was successful, and Merlot confirmed Stabby visited no one, Stabby is 100% confirmed to be a hero. Since I am a hero, either Mike or Merlot is a villain. Is Merlot a hero?Yes - played like he had nothing to hide - attempted to use his power every night, and openly shared the results
- called Annie shady to her face
- fought tooth and nail to defend Ron Wednesday
No - kept his hands clean of both hero and villain blood - Did not vote for Trebec, even though he strongly approved lynching her
- Did not vote for Mac Murdock, even though he strongly approved lynching him
- Led the charge against Erok, but, again, did not vote for him
Is Mike a hero?
Yes - really played like he had nothing to hide, fast and loose - publicly confronted and accused several players of being villains
- encouraged open, public dialogue
No - played aggressive and clueless simultaneously - Has questioned his, and others', roles and game mechanics numerous times
- Did not use his power, then claimed ignorance when he was questioned about it
- Voted for Buzzfly over Trebec on Day 4
- Voted, then rescinded his vote for Annie, when she got within one vote of elimination
- Doubled down, and led the charge against Buzzfly, after Buzzfly claimed his role could prevent a night kill
- Did not vote for Chris Mac
I'm sure there are numerous other points for and against both of you. Feel free to provide feedback. At this time, I think Mike is the most likely villain simply for overplaying dumb. Through several game night interactions, I know Mike is much smarter than he is portraying here. At this time, I'm going to cast my vote for Mike. If Merlot is the villain, then he should jump on this opportunity to end the game. If not, then I know I made the right choice.
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Post by Stabby on May 20, 2020 8:53:53 GMT -8
That's the worst possible choice, Mike. Stabby is completely exonerated based on last night's actions. As we know, the kiss of death is unblockable, gets passed down to the next villain up, and does not replace their original power. Since Mike's block of Stabby was successful, and Merlot confirmed Stabby visited no one, Stabby is 100% confirmed to be a hero. Since I am a hero, either Mike or Merlot is a villain. Is Merlot a hero?Yes - played like he had nothing to hide - attempted to use his power every night, and openly shared the results
- called Annie shady to her face
- fought tooth and nail to defend Ron Wednesday
No - kept his hands clean of both hero and villain blood - Did not vote for Trebec, even though he strongly approved lynching her
- Did not vote for Mac Murdock, even though he strongly approved lynching him
- Led the charge against Erok, but, again, did not vote for him
Is Mike a hero?
Yes - really played like he had nothing to hide, fast and loose - publicly confronted and accused several players of being villains
- encouraged open, public dialogue
No - played aggressive and clueless simultaneously - Has questioned his, and others', roles and game mechanics numerous times
- Did not use his power, then claimed ignorance when he was questioned about it
- Voted for Buzzfly over Trebec on Day 4
- Voted, then rescinded his vote for Annie, when she got within one vote of elimination
- Doubled down, and led the charge against Buzzfly, after Buzzfly claimed his role could prevent a night kill
- Did not vote for Chris Mac
I'm sure there are numerous other points for and against both of you. Feel free to provide feedback. At this time, I think Mike is the most likely villain simply for overplaying dumb. Through several game night interactions, I know Mike is much smarter than he is portraying here. At this time, I'm going to cast my vote for Mike. If Merlot is the villain, then he should jump on this opportunity to end the game. If not, then I know I made the right choice.
I would suggest you unvote. There is one critical piece of information that needs to be address. Why was Mike blocked on night 6?
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Post by Stabby on May 20, 2020 8:55:29 GMT -8
Better question. If Mike was a villain and was indeed blocked, why would Mac Murdock block his own ally?
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Post by bsketchy on May 20, 2020 8:59:34 GMT -8
Why was Mike blocked on night 6? He wasn't. I've held on to this until now. I thought that everyone who did not have a night action (Sarah/Will/Farrell/Codemonkey) would have the same caveat attached to their role, but I was wrong. Here is my role description from Evan: "By clearing your mind, you can separate into two copies of yourself. These copies are so translucent, it is difficult for anyone else to see them. You have the Superpower of Ninja Clone: Your daytime vote secretly counts twice. Any action another player tries to perform on you at night will simply return the message 'action failed'"
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Post by Mike Lenin on May 20, 2020 9:19:20 GMT -8
That's the worst possible choice, Mike. Stabby is completely exonerated based on last night's actions. As we know, the kiss of death is unblockable, gets passed down to the next villain up, and does not replace their original power. Since Mike's block of Stabby was successful, and Merlot confirmed Stabby visited no one, Stabby is 100% confirmed to be a hero. Since I am a hero, either Mike or Merlot is a villain. Is Merlot a hero?Yes - played like he had nothing to hide - attempted to use his power every night, and openly shared the results
- called Annie shady to her face
- fought tooth and nail to defend Ron Wednesday
No - kept his hands clean of both hero and villain blood - Did not vote for Trebec, even though he strongly approved lynching her
- Did not vote for Mac Murdock, even though he strongly approved lynching him
- Led the charge against Erok, but, again, did not vote for him
Is Mike a hero?
Yes - really played like he had nothing to hide, fast and loose - publicly confronted and accused several players of being villains
- encouraged open, public dialogue
No - played aggressive and clueless simultaneously - Has questioned his, and others', roles and game mechanics numerous times
- Did not use his power, then claimed ignorance when he was questioned about it
- Voted for Buzzfly over Trebec on Day 4
- Voted, then rescinded his vote for Annie, when she got within one vote of elimination
- Doubled down, and led the charge against Buzzfly, after Buzzfly claimed his role could prevent a night kill
- Did not vote for Chris Mac
I'm sure there are numerous other points for and against both of you. Feel free to provide feedback. At this time, I think Mike is the most likely villain simply for overplaying dumb. Through several game night interactions, I know Mike is much smarter than he is portraying here. At this time, I'm going to cast my vote for Mike. If Merlot is the villain, then he should jump on this opportunity to end the game. If not, then I know I made the right choice.
Whoa, definitely not over playing being dumb. Well played Bsketchy. Your work is organized, methodical, and leaves enough wiggle room for plausible deniability. You've inserted yourself as a nudging vector. You've played Merlot, and got in the remaining three players good graces. Hell, you are still in my good graces, despite your incorrect accusation. By all accounts, you deserve to win, and by your vote for me, you have put yourself in a position to win. MERLOT, STABBY, and MYSELF have sorted out our issues and inconsistencies and our imperfections that make us heroes. YOU HAVE EMPLOYED EXCELLENT VILLAIN STRATEGY. You have embellished a bit of the voting. you have systematically picked off the heroes. You kept the wild card heroes in. Kept them close. Let them argue with one another. You've played logical reasoning well. You have been bed fellows with Merlot this whole game. You have played him. He is so certain that you are a hero. But you're not, and we both know this, and I hope that he talks with you in person and sees your duping delight. Nobody ever went after you, because you played the game brilliantly. I am the only one that even suggested that you could be a villain, and thats the best reasoning I've had all game. It goes with the same reasoning that Chris Mac was a villain. Against reason. You played Merlot in real life, you played your cards right with Stabby, but you were deceitful with me, because at the time when I privately asked you for a "hot take", you knew that Codemonkey was a twin because you were in tune with Stabby's data, and you intentionally deceived me with this, suggesting that it could be "codemonkey' or "stabby" You have been playing the whole game, pitting people against one another, systematically going for cumulative gains in an end game strategy that now has you casting your two votes. Well played. But sometimes life happens, and people make tough gut wrenching decisions, and so I ask once again, that the remaining heroes consider bsketchy's villain strategy as perfect. We would expect nothing less of you. Yet, still, like Harvey Haddix on May 26, 1959, he threw an absolutely perfect baseball game (one of the rarest things in major league baseball) but still lost. That's baseball for you. Irrational, but beautiful. Bsketchy, my hats off to you, as you, the remaining villain, have played the game perfectly, but it is my sincere hope that Stabby and Merlot dig deep down with what they believe and knock one out of the park for team superhero.
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Post by Stabby on May 20, 2020 9:20:34 GMT -8
Why was Mike blocked on night 6? He wasn't. I've held on to this until now. I thought that everyone who did not have a night action (Sarah/Will/Farrell/Codemonkey) would have the same caveat attached to their role, but I was wrong. Here is my role description from Evan: "By clearing your mind, you can separate into two copies of yourself. These copies are so translucent, it is difficult for anyone else to see them. You have the Superpower of Ninja Clone: Your daytime vote secretly counts twice. Any action another player tries to perform on you at night will simply return the message 'action failed'" ಠ_ಠ Dafaq
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