Let's Kill Amer

[Mac Murdock]

People of the New Land!
I believe Amer to be a native witch. I have had a growing suspicion from very early on in the game.
In a deceitful ruse, he killed off one of his own witches, instantly earning himself trust among the natives.
This did not fool me as killing off someone on his own team would not be a new feat for Amer. He did just such an act to me in mildville 2 (this was also a tactic that proved somewhat successful for myself in Mildville 1).

More fun facts:
He blatantly lied to Tulley during the first immunity challenge.
During the first week he stated medaling in pilgram business.
He knew the benefit of killing a witch so that it might open a channel of communication between the two camps.
He turned me into a newt...I got better.
Since killing off Mike he as lead three campaigns against proven humans.

He is a deceitful and powerful player. We should no longer let his tyranny be a curse upon our fair town!

I am sure he will respond to this in the usual Amer manner (say that 5 times fast). But DO NOT TRUST HIS WORDS! They are a carefully crafted web of lies. He will undoubtedly twist my own words against me, removing countless posts from their context to create his own evidence. But disregard his deception and don't let his fabricated facts distort the truth!

Amer's a Witch! Burn him!

[Amer]

So, the serpent has shown its face. See the snake as it slithers through the grass. All this while, Chris has been keeping silent, claiming that he "only comments when it's useful". But, suddenly, Chris has a cause. One can only assume that Chris was part of a covert conspiracy. Now that the tribes have merged, it appears the witches have become more confident. In the absence of a clear candidate, they have have taken the initiative.

I could tell everyone to vote for Chris here, but, to be honest, I don't know that he is a witch. It is true that he has been uncharacteristically quiet, which is rather odd, but perhaps he is just confused from not being able to keep up. I think it would be more prudent to allow an impartial judge decide our next move.

I've been discussing possible candidates for elimination with the only players I can actually trust: Son and Tulley. It would be in the humans' best interest to allow a confirmed human decide whom should be voted out. So, what will it be, guys? Should we vote for Chris (who was already on the suspect list, btw), or would someone else be a better target?

P.S. I didn't bother to refute Chris's claims against me because they're so shallow, but if you want me to, let me know.

[Annie McClarabow]

Chris has been on my short list for awhile. He's proven every season that he is smart and deliberate (even when he was untimely killed in season 2 he managed to get his team together).

However, Amer is correct that Son and Tulley (Judy and Paula and Sam too if they're reading the boards) are the only ones that we can truly trust. I'd like to hear what they have to say.

Amer - I would love to hear you refute Chris' arguments. Didn't Chris also vote for Mike?

[Tulley Kennedy]

We have 6 natives left and 5 pilgrims. At this point, everyone is a suspect. The native witches have successfully voted with the humans, even to the point of sacrificing one of their own, thus obscuring their ranks. The pilgrim witches, as far as I can tell, have NEVER voted as a bloc, and at least one of them has voted for themselves (aka failed to vote) at one point in the game. Since we are largely still shooting in the dark, I say vote out a pilgrim, as that gives the better statistical likelihood of nabbing a witch.

So once again, I will call out Dan. I have not trusted him since week one as everyone knows, and the way he avoided the gallows last week was ultra suspicious. I thought Dan & Paula were the 2 remaining witches and told everyone to vote for Dan. Then Erok was like "so.... should we vote for Dan? Paula?" then immediately went on the warpath for Paula. I thought it was a clumsy shift at the time, but since I suspected them both I went along with it. Now I think Erok & Dan are the witches and Erok came to his rescue. I am nowhere near 100% on this, but then, I am not 100% on anyone so thats my best bet.

[Annie McClarabow]

Ok. I'll defer to the confirmed human Tulley. Dan is also on my short list.

What else do we have on him? He did apparently save his brother in week 1 and, when Tulley visited us last week, Mike (for whatever its worth) confirmed that he knew Dan's allegiance early in the game.

[Son Anheuser]

Very confusing to be sure. Dan did vote for two humans and then last week voted for Erick who is an unknown presently.

Then you have him warning his brother Mike who was a confirmed witch despite the fact that Dan said he would like nothing better than getting Mike voted off.

So who else do we have with a worse record than Dan?

Does Amer deserve some kind of punishment for being wrong about Tulley? Tulley had Amer offered you $100 if he is human?

[Dan Cappella]

I'm human. I voted every week with Paula, another human.

Tulley is the worst judge of character. He got suckered by witch Sarah into voting off Sam (a human), and then he got suckered by likely-witch Erok into voting off Paula (another human). Even though Tulley wasn't a witch, with his voting record he might as well have been.

Erok, on the other hand, led the charge against Paula for no good reason. He led a charge against me the the week before which might have succeeded if Sam had bothered to vote that week.

What are the charges against me? "Warning" Mike? As I've said before, Mike and Paula are the only two people in the game who's numbers I even know. So I talked to both of them to learn about how the game is played. I had no idea that Mike was a witch, nor did I know that casually mentioning that he was the subject of conversation was somehow an alliance.

At this point my main suspects are Erok and Amercula. I believe Erok is a witch based on the way he led an unsubstantiated charged against Paula and how he suckered Tulley the exact same way Sarah did. I think Amercula is the vampire because of the way he went on a crusade against Tulley based on "evidence" that could easily be falsified with photoshop.

[Judy]

Dan was a Pilgrim. Warning Mike seemed to serve no other purpose than familial concern--Mike was a Native Witch and the Pilgrim Witches and Native Witches had yet to become acquainted.

I'm thinking that Chris may be on to something--vote Amer (is it just a coincidence that Amer is hidden in Vampire). While Amer made a lucky guess on Mike--I think it was too early in the game to think that he worked deceptive sabotage, vote off a witch to mislead, enough wasn't yet known. Amer seemed to campaign to make us believe that Tulley was the Vampire, but then suggested that the Pilgrim’s vote Tulley off. If Amer were the Vampire, wouldn’t he want us to continue to suspect Tulley? On the other hand, why would a Native campaign against a Pilgrim? I’m so confused.

Annie, now there’s the one that first threw down the gauntlet and hit me on the foot. For that reason alone, I say vote off Annie. (vindictive def.--spiteful, malicious, mean ;D)

[Tulley Kennedy]

The Pilgrim witch voting record is useless. A witch has voted with a human every week, and has voted for himself at least once. It is worthless as a guide. I didn't get suckered by Sarah, I was trying to save my ass and nobody else said anything. I didn't get suckered by erok, and since erok saved your ass you should be hugging him right now.

And while we are on the subject of voting records, you have voted for Franco (human), me (human), and Erok (jury is still out).

[Dan Cappella]

This is turning into a parallel of Sam's and Paula's killings. One person comes up with unsubstantiated charges, Tulley gets suckered in and a human dies.

And Tulley's always along for the ride.

Here's an idea - let's try doing the opposite of what Tulley suggests and maybe we can take out a witch or the vampire.

Erok or Amer? Who's it going to be?

[Dan Cappella]

Aug 10, 2011 9:24:41 GMT -8 Annie McClarabow said:

Ok. I'll defer to the confirmed human Tulley. Dan is also on my short list.

What else do we have on him? He did apparently save his brother in week 1 and, when Tulley visited us last week, Mike (for whatever its worth) confirmed that he knew Dan's allegiance early in the game.

Mike's not exactly a reliable source, especially since I'd told his girlfriend I'd do whatever I could to get him kicked out early.

[Super Sarah]

Aug 10, 2011 10:08:56 GMT -8 Dan Cappella said:

I'm human. I voted every week with Paula, another human.

Tulley is the worst judge of character. He got suckered by witch Sarah into voting off Sam (a human), and then he got suckered by likely-witch Erok into voting off Paula (another human). Even though Tulley wasn't a witch, with his voting record he might as well have been.

Erok, on the other hand, led the charge against Paula for no good reason. He led a charge against me the the week before which might have succeeded if Sam had bothered to vote that week.

At this point my main suspects are Erok and Amercula. I believe Erok is a witch based on the way he led an unsubstantiated charged against Paula and how he suckered Tulley the exact same way Sarah did. I think Amercula is the vampire because of the way he went on a crusade against Tulley based on "evidence" that could easily be falsified with photoshop.

Actually I was the one leading the charge against Paula because I thought she was the vampire and I knew she was either a vampire or human. Everyone else just followed me.

[Dan Cappella]

Aug 10, 2011 10:44:21 GMT -8 Super Sarah said:

Aug 10, 2011 10:08:56 GMT -8 Dan Cappella said:

I'm human. I voted every week with Paula, another human.

Tulley is the worst judge of character. He got suckered by witch Sarah into voting off Sam (a human), and then he got suckered by likely-witch Erok into voting off Paula (another human). Even though Tulley wasn't a witch, with his voting record he might as well have been.

Erok, on the other hand, led the charge against Paula for no good reason. He led a charge against me the the week before which might have succeeded if Sam had bothered to vote that week.

At this point my main suspects are Erok and Amercula. I believe Erok is a witch based on the way he led an unsubstantiated charged against Paula and how he suckered Tulley the exact same way Sarah did. I think Amercula is the vampire because of the way he went on a crusade against Tulley based on "evidence" that could easily be falsified with photoshop.

Actually I was the one leading the charge against Paula because I thought she was the vampire and I knew she was either a vampire or human. Everyone else just followed me.

Erok seemed pretty enthusiastic about following the lead of a dead witch.

[Mac Murdock]

Amer claims that in Mildville he never gets to anything fun. In my case, I have never been human (I was in game 2, but only lasted a week). In the past I was more active on the boards because I had an agenda.
This time, I decided to take a back seat and observe. From what I've seen, I believe that Amer has been hiding something. To me it is no co-incidence that his closest allies are dead; no one living will trust him.

Now my silence has come at a cost. I warned Annie in week 2 of my suspissions of Amer (albeit at the time I thought him to be the Vampire) I should have been more vocal.

I know what an Alien/Witch/Werewolf/Vampire needs to do to win.
They need to create chaos, so that their actions go without repercussions.

Amer can led a crusade against 3 innocent people, and we continue to follow.
1 for 4 is not acceptable, not even in baseball.

How many more people will Amer send to their graves before we wise up?

[Annie McClarabow]

Well. This is super helpful. Here are the nominees: Amer, Chris, Dan, Erock, Annie. I think we ought to throw Stinky Pete in there for good measure.

[Amer]

Dan wasn't very high on my list, but voting day is here, so there isn't much time to debate. I, personally, wouldn't have chosen him this week, but the witches will be working together, so the rest of us need to vote as a group. Tulley has picked Dan as a likely witch candidate. He may be wrong, but at least we know he's not a witch, so we need to get together and vote for Dan.

Aug 10, 2011 6:12:13 GMT -8 Annie McClarabow said:

Amer - I would love to hear you refute Chris' arguments.

In a deceitful ruse, he killed off one of his own witches, instantly earning himself trust among the natives.

Saying that I killed off a witch, because I'm a witch, isn't evidence; It's a claim. It's a wonderful story, but it's just as valid as saying "Amer voted off another witch by accident, so he's a witch!"

This did not fool me as killing off someone on his own team would not be a new feat for Amer. He did just such an act to me in mildville 2

No one knew who the teams were that week. It was a random kill. The fact that he would mention this as an argument against me shows that he has no real argument and is just using fluff.

He blatantly lied to Tulley during the first immunity challenge.

As I made abundantly clear, I was quite certain that Tulley was the vampire, which is why I lied to him that week.

During the first week he stated medaling in pilgram business.

I assume he means that calling Tulley out as the vampire is "pilgrim business". The vampire affects both tribes, not just pilgrims. Even if this statement was true, how is that proof that I'm a witch?

He knew the benefit of killing a witch so that it might open a channel of communication between the two camps.

Actually, I made it quite clear that there was no point in the two witch clans communicating at that point in the game. A "channel of communication" would not help the independent witch tribes in any way, but if anyone disagrees with that, please, explain it to me.

Since killing off Mike he as lead three campaigns against proven humans.

I laid out a pretty strong argument against Mike. It was correct.
I laid out a pretty strong argument against Judy. It was not correct. That's not my fault; It's Judy's fault. I didn't see anyone defending her, before or after the vote.
Week 3, it was either going to be Pete or Jonathon. I wasn't completely sold on Pete, so I went with Jonathon. He hasn't participated at all, so at least I'd be killing off a worthless non-voter if I was wrong.
I have no remorse for those last two. Jonathon didn't play at all. Judy dug her own grave, put on a witch's hat, grabbed a broom, and jumped in it.

He is a deceitful and powerful player.

Where's the deceit? He didn't show how I deceived anyone. He just made it up. And if you want to vote for a "powerful player", Chris won last game as the werewolf, and caused quite a stir in Mildville 1, from what I've read.


The lack of a serious argument against me leads me to believe that Chris has an ulterior motive for voting me off. He remained almost silent up to this point, but now that the witch tribes have joined together, he's suddenly vocal. Chris isn't an idiot, but the argument he laid out against me is horrible. The only reasonable explanation I can see is that the witches have marked me as a threat and Chris has been sent out to do the dirty work. This action puts him on the highly suspect list, in my book.

Chris, however, is a problem for next week. This week, we vote for Dan.

[Annie McClarabow]

Aug 10, 2011 11:00:07 GMT -8 Mac Murdock said:

I know what an Alien/Witch/Werewolf/Vampire needs to do to win.
They need to create chaos, so that their actions go without repercussions.

Isn't chaos what your thread created? You know that calling out Amer is like poking a Grizzly with a stick. Now we have a frenzy of accusations with no clear target.

I'm voting Chris. Or Dan.

[Paula - old account]

Are you ready for some clarity from the heavens above???

While none of us humans, dead or alive, knows the identity of the living for certain, there are a few things to consider:

While they may share the same genetics in the real world, the similarities of Mike and Dan end there. So, in a move that is still an educated guess....I offer that if Mike is a witch in Mildville, Dan is probably human.

Dan voted with me....and did not jump on the mob wagon against me...since the start. I think that says something.

On the other hand, EROK has started a few rallies against us humans.

Other observations....I've ruled out Chris as the VAMPIRE, altho I'm not sure he's human....Amer is scary....Annie is suspicious...and who the hell is Steve?

If I could....I'd vote EROK!

[Tulley Kennedy]

If you think Erok is a witch, then you MUST think Dan is a witch, because Erok got everyone who would have voted for Dan to vote for Paula, something he never would have done if Dan were human.

[Dan Cappella]

For Erok the witch, it would make no difference which human got voted off, me or Paula. But if he had an inking of suspicion that Paula was the vampire, it would make sense to make her the priority, since worst case scenario he takes out another human.