Annie McClarabow
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Post by Annie McClarabow on Nov 30, 2012 8:04:28 GMT -8
So. Ladies. You best splain yourselves. Cuz Kyle and Zac are looking pretty damn human right now.
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Post by True Ingéneurs on Nov 30, 2012 8:30:14 GMT -8
I stand by my decision and I just wrote Farrell a letter. I seriously thought he was a clone. Here's my letter:
Farrell noooo you were a human?
I wish you would have fought me more. You were acting so cloney. accussing sarah.. sarah said you were accusing me too. so I felt like you were changing your story too much and "playing" people/me.
I am a human. I am so human. I wish you would have fought me more, I felt like I was the tie breaker last night in a way that I could have saved you. dangit. I feel responsible and I want the humans to win! ---- From where I have been standing they both were cloney. I felt Farrell was being more secretive.. writing everyone personal messages yesterday.. changing his story. He was set on voting for chris and then in the poll he chose chris and me. then in a personal message he was suspicious of Sarah. I'm like whaa: why is he changing his suspicions?
In general, Chris was more cloney,things he said didn't make sense to me, he seemed to get more emotional.. idk.. off. Farrell was being in one word maybe more 'sneaky' and at the same time playing the game more strategically. Admirable, but in my mind, I didn't want that behavior continuing into the end so that is what swayed my vote. I was thinking ahead which maybe was an error. I should have just done 1 week at a time. I suppose I was preparing for: once I’m not immune anymore and no more challenges everyone would be pointing fingers at me now that they could. I felt like Farrell could be a leader in the no True movement.
Now I see all his back & forth stuff was simply human ignorance of who is a clone. Which I totally get.
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Post by True Ingéneurs on Nov 30, 2012 8:38:53 GMT -8
Also, for the record, Sarah did propose the idea of why voting Farrell off could be legit. I'm sure she will explain her reasonings..
I'm not trying to throw her under a bus but I think it's important to know this. I agreed with her on most if not all her points. We both can't be clones. We both could be confused humans, which I believe to be true.
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Post by True Ingéneurs on Nov 30, 2012 8:39:18 GMT -8
Oh man and if Kyle (or Sarah) but mostly Kyle, is the Clone I will go insane.
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Post by Farrell on Nov 30, 2012 8:57:34 GMT -8
There are two dupes left One dupe is a duplicate The other dupe is just a human who got duped.
I'm confused by you true. You say I should have fought harder for your vote but then you criticize me for PMing too much.
Here is the PM sent true where she claims I confused her by saying that Amer and Annie can confirm i'm human. The context of the PM was that I was sending her a gmail that kyle had sent to us. So when I say, "it was also cc'd" I am referring to that gmail. so when I say "its truth" I was referring to the truth of the email not that I was a human. I don't think its confusing.
There are four people left 3 humans and a clone. If its a tie vote then they both get eliminated. So Zac and kyle split their vote. True votes for sarah, sarah votes for true. 2vs2 and both get eliminated and humans win. The human of the two has to vote for the other for the humans to win otherwise the clone can do something sneaky.
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Post by Farrell on Nov 30, 2012 9:08:43 GMT -8
P.S. I told you I was human!
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Annie McClarabow
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Post by Annie McClarabow on Nov 30, 2012 9:40:21 GMT -8
True, you miss the point of this thread. It's highly improbable that Kyle or Zac are clones (why would they have voted against Chris?). So, it's between you and Sarah.
I'm not sure how you can stand by your decision since it was wrong. You even concede that Chris is more cloney above!
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Annie McClarabow
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Post by Annie McClarabow on Nov 30, 2012 9:51:20 GMT -8
I want to hear from Sarah.
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Post by True Ingéneurs on Nov 30, 2012 11:01:08 GMT -8
We'll hear from Sarah. Also, I'm okay with being wrong. We all are at some point. I don't regret my decision because it was what I thought was the right thing at one time. Maybe I was duped. That's okay, there is still a chance of the humans succeeding.
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Post by True Ingéneurs on Nov 30, 2012 11:03:56 GMT -8
Maybe it's a long shot, but is it possible kyle and zac made a risky move to vote chris off to make the cover of they are looking super human right now? (Sacrificing one of their own?) I mean it IS possible yes?
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Annie McClarabow
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Post by Annie McClarabow on Nov 30, 2012 11:11:17 GMT -8
Maybe it's a long shot, but is it possible kyle and zac made a risky move to vote chris off to make the cover of they are looking super human right now? (Sacrificing one of their own?) I mean it IS possible yes? I assume you mean Kyle or Zac since there is only one clone left. Anything is possible but it would be super stupid risky and a move neither of those guys would make. Again, SUPER STUPID RISKY. It would be the least likely scenario.
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Post by Super Sarah on Nov 30, 2012 11:54:26 GMT -8
Welp.... shoot...... I was wrong. Farrell I am sorry, but I was truly suspicious of both you and Chris and had a hard time deciding. This week I got the answer to both my questions so at least I know now. I think what made me most suspicious of Farrell is that he was using the dead humans to back him up... here's the thing, how would they really know if you're human or not? Because you said so? It would be the perfect hiding place because you have human support. You were also in the group of people who could have given Paula the cryptogram answer [which we know now is totally Chris]. And you were teaming up with Zac... at this point in the game real humans should trust no one! I felt that by not accusing each other they were protecting each other, which is suspicious. The clencher was that you were talking to True and I off the boards, pitting us against each other secretly and we told each other. It was still a 50/50 guess up to that point. Then you also sent True the message that Kyle sent to you about me, which after you were trying to gain my trust via email totally blew it. In the interest of full disclosure, I fully admit that the secret campaign against Farrell was my idea for the above listed reasons. I pm'd True, Chris and Kyle. Chris didn't think it would work... he was already resigned to be voted off. True wasn't sure until the last minute and I didn't even know how she would vote. I sent Kyle a short pm first because I didn't think he would even read it... but he replied quickly saying "hmmm interesting". Then I explained myself further and he didn't reply. What he did do is send my message to Farrell. [who sent it to True who sent it to me]. Because of that... who looks like the clones this week? True and I. Who is everyone assuming is most likely human? Kyle. Why is that? Because Chris.. the clone.. already set it up. He's the one that said Evan texted Kyle to get the numbers but how do we know that for sure? Evan will neither confirm nor deny it. But everyone knows that is uncharacteristic for this game... he usually sends an email. And... since Chris and Kyle were pm-ing each other, their real message couldn't be quoted. [we should have asked for a screen shot] Since they're both clones it could be a made up email for all we know. It backfired and made everyone suspicious of him, so they had to come up with a plan for the clones to win. My message to Kyle was the perfect opportunity. He sent it to Farrell because he knew Farrell would tell someone and I would look suspicious. True was already under the gun so he didn't need to worry about her. He probably thought I would get Zac on board too leaving him room to vote for Chris without taking down his team. That led to the tiebreaker which ultimately took out Chris. Now True and I look suspicious and Kyle appears to be human... exactly what the definition of a clone is.
I've been speculating Kyle was a sleeper clone for weeks, and I've mentioned it before.
Kyle... SNITCHES GET STITCHES!!!
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Post by Farrell on Nov 30, 2012 12:25:55 GMT -8
Well played Sarah, you are a gifted writer and spun quite the tale. Unfortunately it doesn't quite add up.
you said i was supsicious for the following 1) Using dead humans to back me up 2) I was in the group that could have given paula the answer 3) I was teaming up with Zac 4) The clincher, pitting True and Sarah against each other.
I will answer these in turn 1) So what? The dead humans are the most trustworthy. They may still be wrong but their motivations can't be questioned. If they agree with me, it adds credibility to what I'm saying vs. what another unknwon player is saying. So 1 is a weak argument. 2) So was chris so its not a reason to vote for me over chris. 3) Huh? I was teaming up with everyone against Chris. I was trying to get as many people on board. Obviously the clone would not vote for Chris but the other humans would. 4) I wasn't doing this until after you PM'd kyle. I did say that I thought true might be the other clone but I was trying to get you to vote for Chris. What do you want me to say to you, that I thought you were the other clone?
Its simple, you say Chris was going down and was trying to save him but unfortunately it exposed yourself in the process.
If you want to prove you are human, its simple. Just vote for True in the next elimination. True votes for you. Kyle and Zac split their votes and its a 2 vs 2.
If either Kyle or Zac are the remaining clones then they took such a big risk voting for Chris this round especially with you rallying support for me. They could have easily switched their vote and made it a 4/2 vote got rid of me and been in a great position. Honestly, if one of them is the clone then I think they basically deserve to win.
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Post by Super Sarah on Nov 30, 2012 12:47:50 GMT -8
Ok so it's True v. Kyle this week... obviously I got played by one of them.
Evan what happens if there's another tie? Jello wrestling death match?
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Post by Ron Wednesday on Nov 30, 2012 12:53:34 GMT -8
I didn't read all of the above, but it seems like another insane vote with lots of secret things going on and a solid last ditch effort by Chris and someone. For my part, I probably got 5 messages to make sure I was voting for Chris, so I don't fully understand how we tied with Farrel. If it becomes important, I can look back and share what people asked me. Once again, I look to be left out of the "secret" vote and like last week, I feel there is something fishy going on.
Whatever, it had to be either Chris or Farrel, so I'm glad we got Chris despite taking 2 weeks to make it happen and losing Farrel in the process.
I'll try to be a bit more involved this week, but it's still busy. My 2 year old is crazy sick and so am I, so I've got newborn + sick kid and am just hanging on. If I start to type gibberish, it's from sleep deprivation. I'll still likely be more involved than kyle. How did he manage to vote anyway? Is there a dead human who is effectively his proxy now and tells him to vote?
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Post by Super Sarah on Nov 30, 2012 13:19:58 GMT -8
I think Chris told him to vote because he's the other clone. That still supports my theory.
Sorry for leaving you out, I thought you were a clone working with Farrell and I didn't want to risk it.
Hope you feel better soon btw
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Post by True Ingéneurs on Nov 30, 2012 13:43:15 GMT -8
If either Kyle or Zac are the remaining clones then they took such a big risk voting for Chris this round especially with you rallying support for me. They could have easily switched their vote and made it a 4/2 vote got rid of me and been in a great position. Honestly, if one of them is the clone then I think they basically deserve to win.
So if Sarah and I die, say.. both human. Zac or Kyle is clone.. then the clones win? ( think I deleted today's gazette email? If someone wants to forward it to me, that would be appreciated.)
I don't like that outcome. As far as deserving it, Kyle wasn't super involved a lot and but I suppose I could see Zac deserving it. Being so sneaky! And he's a new daddy again so sure.
Oh well, it's supposed to be a tough decision.
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Post by Evan on Nov 30, 2012 14:03:53 GMT -8
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Post by Ron Wednesday on Nov 30, 2012 14:10:41 GMT -8
I think Chris told him to vote because he's the other clone. That still supports my theory. Wait, is this really the case? Chris told Kyle to vote for him? Someone else should ring in(or Kyle himself, but unlikely) about why he voted for Chris. If Chris was the only one talking to him, then that's super odd and points to Kyle, but this still seems unlikely as I just can't imagine someone would rather play silent when you could engage in all this fun stuff. Win or lose, this was fun. While I do think True or Sarah are more likely to be masterminding the recent events, I'm not terribly in favor of the double kill vote. It seems way to risky when we're actually not in a bad spot and it doesn't gain us anything. If kyle is silent playing, which seems like a valid though broken strategy, then he'll kill me and we lose. It's putting all our eggs in one basket without needing to. . .though to be fair, I'm also super eager to find out who's who and all the behind the scene dupes.
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Post by Farrell on Nov 30, 2012 14:57:47 GMT -8
Annie, Amer, and I told Kyle to vote for Chris. He has been pretty trustworthy and came forward with the info when Sarah tried to get him to vote for me.
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