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Post by Dread Pirate Rackham on Oct 2, 2015 13:18:49 GMT -8
Hi Guys,
I haven't been involved as much as I'd like. Work has been a nightmare, plus trip to another country. Anywoo.
Kraken:
Dread Pirate Rackham
Cid
Sidmeier
Lanlubber
Thebay
WilliamMcCoy
Votes:
Voted for DPR: Cid, LandLubber, Sid, Thebary
Voted for Landlubber: DPR, WilliamMccoy
Voted for Cid: Rackham
DNV: Flynn
I voted because I read alot of stuff against cid and it's been weeks people have been complaining. Something about a drawing, but mainly cause the simplest explanation is usually correct.
I would like an explanation from the other alive people about why they voted. Some folks have been scheming I think and if we all just are open about whatever dealing have been occurring, I'm sure we can find the person who has been the most active in their plots, trying to manipulate things. Sure, we can debate that the killer is hiding in plain sight or something, but that seems like more garble, let's just get through one thought at a time.
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Post by Fluffy Rob on Oct 2, 2015 17:51:15 GMT -8
If deduction and reasoning fail, I find that eenie meenie minie moe is an effective method of elimination.
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Post by The Dread Pirate Roberts on Oct 2, 2015 19:18:28 GMT -8
Be careful, Zac. Starting a thread like this is awfully suspicious. We kill people around here when they try to start a discussion. It's called "trying too hard". I would like an explanation from the other alive people about why they voted. Good luck with that. |
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Post by Dread Pirate Rackham on Oct 3, 2015 7:30:42 GMT -8
Be careful, Zac. Starting a thread like this is awfully suspicious. We kill people around here when they try to start a discussion. It's called "trying too hard". I would like an explanation from the other alive people about why they voted. Good luck with that. Doing nothing at all all season, participating in like 1 event, missing some event I still don't get where all the muttees got ousted, reading threads for 2 minutes a week, and make a single post with 2 weeks left. That certainly seems like trying too hard. Anyway, if there really are 5 people who are interested in finding the Kraken and 1 who isn't(plus a bunch of jackasses on the side confusing things; and I just assume this is the case historically, not actually pointing fingers), then this seems simple enough. |
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Post by Fluffy Rob on Oct 3, 2015 15:28:33 GMT -8
It's not that simple. Absent glaring clues, the kraken has plenty of hiding places. Leading back to my eenie meenie minie moe suggestion.
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Post by cid on Oct 3, 2015 23:12:00 GMT -8
I'll answer your questions starting with this: I still don't get where all the muttees got ousted To make this short: - In "Guess the Mutineers" Jailer Challenge, 4 mutineers in a list were outted to be mutineers - When Captain Aubrey was 99.9% Mutineer, 100% Liar, You and all of the mutineers voted for VitaminC, revealing who were mutineers. - Mutineers were going to die, and Captain Brownbread saved them by making both pirates and mutineers into one team I may just be a simple country chicken, but last I looked, it seemed like people were voting for cid, right? When did this change? Not much has changed actually. TDPR "kinda" suspected me but was convinced I was not the Kraken. Pandapirate suspected me because of being a mutineer in the past life, but can not vote. The only real "people" that made it seems "people" were voting for me was Jerk Slappers, aka this guy:  I'll explain my reasoning for voting for TDPR in the next post. |
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Post by cid on Oct 4, 2015 0:10:34 GMT -8
First off, I wish to apologize to TDPR because he defended me, but I voted for him anyways. If you turned out to be the Kraken, this would have been a different story, but this was not the case. I will go into my reasoning for why I voted for TDPR. I'll start out with what you said in your analyse: The Kraken would want everyone to be suspected of being the Kraken I agree with this statement, as this would be the best way for the Kraken to hide, it's ideal. However, with your analyse it seemed you were doing exactly that. sidmeier has made exactly two posts. That's a little too quiet, I think, but he's still a candidate. thebay's comment are a bit erratic. He speaks a lot, but never accuses anyone. He's voted with the group. I think he fits the profile best. You pointed out these two, which actually stands out that either of them are most likely to be Kraken. Yet, you didn't choose either of them and said this: I think I'm going to vote for landlubber this week. He fits the profile best. This decision absolutely made no sense to me. In the analyse (below), you've said he was eliminated from your list of suspected Kraken, as he was trying to narrow down the Kraken. Yet you voted for him anyways? I'm not including myself in this list because I know I'm not the Kraken. You'll have to do your own analysis on that. I would eliminate landlubber from the list, almost entirely because of this post. For someone who is saying that everyone killed you for talking and trying to look helpful, you were also doing the exact same thing with no reason whatsoever. If you had chosen thebay, I would have likely joined you because thebay matched your analyse. I could not tell if this was a slip-up or a mistake. After making my analyses and reviewing all your past actions, I've concluded that you were the most likely to be the Kraken at the time. I screwed up, but at least I'll admit to that. |
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Post by Jack Tappers on Oct 4, 2015 10:17:52 GMT -8
If you don't think cid is mocking you then you need to see a therapist and you should absolutely never talk to a Scientologist.
But I do have a bridge to sell you in Denver.
And he uses memegenerator unironically, and what the fuck is an analyse? It's analysis, cid.
Barf.
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Post by williammccoy on Oct 5, 2015 8:57:38 GMT -8
First off, I wish to apologize to TDPR because he defended me, but I voted for him anyways. If you turned out to be the Kraken, this would have been a different story, but this was not the case. I will go into my reasoning for why I voted for TDPR. I'll start out with what you said in your analyse: The Kraken would want everyone to be suspected of being the Kraken I agree with this statement, as this would be the best way for the Kraken to hide, it's ideal. However, with your analyse it seemed you were doing exactly that. sidmeier has made exactly two posts. That's a little too quiet, I think, but he's still a candidate. thebay's comment are a bit erratic. He speaks a lot, but never accuses anyone. He's voted with the group. I think he fits the profile best. You pointed out these two, which actually stands out that either of them are most likely to be Kraken. Yet, you didn't choose either of them and said this: I think I'm going to vote for landlubber this week. He fits the profile best. This decision absolutely made no sense to me. In the analyse (below), you've said he was eliminated from your list of suspected Kraken, as he was trying to narrow down the Kraken. Yet you voted for him anyways? I'm not including myself in this list because I know I'm not the Kraken. You'll have to do your own analysis on that. I would eliminate landlubber from the list, almost entirely because of this post. For someone who is saying that everyone killed you for talking and trying to look helpful, you were also doing the exact same thing with no reason whatsoever. If you had chosen thebay, I would have likely joined you because thebay matched your analyse. I could not tell if this was a slip-up or a mistake. After making my analyses and reviewing all your past actions, I've concluded that you were the most likely to be the Kraken at the time. I screwed up, but at least I'll admit to that. Why wasn't this analysis made in a post prior to the vote? |
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Post by Dread Pirate Rackham on Oct 5, 2015 13:39:31 GMT -8
Thanks cid for contributing why you voted. Anyone else care to explain?
Not sure why this is hard. Unless of course your the Kraken, sitting well on the sidelines, knowing if you say nothing, you can have nothing contradicted. I think there is more going on here and if people could simply weigh in for why they voted and with what input, we'd have something. I'm not asking a ton, just a few words about why. 2 years ago if we actually had looked at what 'secret' conversations were going on, you'd have found out I was in both of them, not really as 'leader', but just there to see the way the wind blows.
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Post by The Dread Pirate Roberts on Oct 5, 2015 20:53:21 GMT -8
LOL. I totally fucked that up. I didn't even realize it until you just pointed it out. I absolutely meant to vote for thebay. That was just a brain fart. Sorry, landlubber!
William has a point, though. If this had been mentioned publicly, I would have corrected myself.
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Post by cid on Oct 6, 2015 17:05:44 GMT -8
Since I didn't think you would have made such a huge mistake, I thought you were intended on killing landlubber. I didn't say anything because that post and the one after about having evidence for landlubber made me not trust you. But apparently Jack Tappers also noticed it on the Gazette 9 thread, so it did not have to be me: Yeah you wrote a whole page about how three people (cid, sidmeier, and thebay) fit certain aspects of your expert Kraken psych profile, and then inexplicably diverted to vote for landlubber, about whom you highlighted no details. It wasn't just PMs that got you killed. But since William should have read your post since he came to an agreement with you, he should noticed it and corrected you. William even went to say the avater reasoning for me in being the Kraken is weak, but somehow he missed your mistake in choosing landlubber when you had no reason to kill him at all. I think William meets a lot of the profile of a smart Kraken. He never accused anyone and was quiet as hell after he survived from being hung by mutineers. Among the living 5 "pirates", Amer suspected William the least because he did not vote for many weeks and did not always vote with the group. I agree with Amer and that among us, he looks the least suspicious, and that is why I think it might be him. This is the position of what a Kraken wants and would probably have planned. A Kraken that is too quiet is suspicious, which is why Amer made sidmeier a candidate with his lack of posts. A Kraken that votes with the group often will appear to be blending in with the group. A smart Kraken player would have taken notes of these ideas and try to avoid detection by not doing these two things, and this is what William has done. Since Amer also noticed that if the answer to the "Who is the Kraken?" was simple, Brownbread wouldn't have merged the two teams together, since it was pretty certain that DPR and I would be dead pretty quickly. But if Brownbeard wants us to solve this Kraken problem, it must be someone we really least suspect and someone we would not even consider to be Kraken, which is William. Since I think Brownbread merging the teams also acts as a hint, I think William who has done very well to avoid looking like the Kraken throughout the game, also made himself look most likely to be the Kraken in this kind of situation. |
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Post by Jack Tappers on Oct 6, 2015 19:54:42 GMT -8
Behold as the Kraken spins a whirlpool of distraction, tossing around rainbow statements about Kraken behavior to implicate one person without actually highlighting where in the vote record they did what he accuses them of. We've had very few majority votes this season, iirc, so there was not often a group to blend in with.
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Post by williammccoy on Oct 6, 2015 20:32:11 GMT -8
It puts a smile on my face to read the above post about how im some mastermind Kraken. I wish i was. Unfortunately im just a dumb old pirate.
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Post by landlubber on Oct 6, 2015 21:43:47 GMT -8
LOL. I totally fucked that up. I didn't even realize it until you just pointed it out. I absolutely meant to vote for thebay. That was just a brain fart. Sorry, landlubber! William has a point, though. If this had been mentioned publicly, I would have corrected myself. Wow, I'm not sure how you managed to confuse me with someone else three separate times. First here, then here, and once more when you messaged Brownbeard. However, since you've been revealed as a human and you have nothing to hide, I'll have to conclude that it was just a big blunder. I would like an explanation from the other alive people about why they voted. Simple, The DPR said he would vote for me so I voted for him. Obviously, I wasn't going to vote for myself. |
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Post by landlubber on Oct 6, 2015 22:36:15 GMT -8
I just got caught up with a whole week's worth of reading and I've reached the conclusion that logic plays no role in Mildville. It's just manipulation and luck.
We have a 2/5 chance of winning and we still have no idea who is the Kraken. I'm willing to vote with Cid this week as his argument is sound. If William turns out to be human, then I'm going to vote for Cid next week. It'll just be too regretful if Cid won the game after all the blatant mocking that he's been doing.
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Post by Jack Tappers on Oct 7, 2015 7:34:18 GMT -8
I just got caught up with a whole week's worth of reading and I've reached the conclusion that logic plays no role in Mildville. It's just manipulation and luck. We have a 2/5 chance of winning and we still have no idea who is the Kraken. I'm willing to vote with Cid this week as his argument is sound. If William turns out to be human, then I'm going to vote for Cid next week. It'll just be too regretful if Cid won the game after all the blatant mocking that he's been doing. A scenario which you should have all nipped in the bud by now. I mean fuck, it's wrong and retarded of him to mock you like that even if he were innocent, because it muddies the waters. Tell me what innocent person loves making the state of things less clear. |
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Post by cid on Oct 7, 2015 11:59:35 GMT -8
An innocent person that has already been marked for death and has nothing to lose. Don't forget that it was you and the living mutineers that tried to vote me off, thinking that I was the Kraken. Since you were the one that painted me as the Kraken, I was certain that I would be dead once all of the mutineers had died. Since I am practially a dead man walking, I might as well mock you and all of the living mutineers who thought I was Kraken and feed their belief that I was indeed the Kraken. Since there would have been no evidence to suggest I was not the Kraken, I expected to die after all the mutineers had died. But since Brownbeard has merged both teams into one, I was certain that I would be lynched right away. I decided to use my mockery to find out who is the Kraken, since we had nothing to really go on and I had nothing to lose. I never intended to mock the pirates, as this is something only you are saying Jack Tappers. I also realize that by continuing to mock and "look" like the Kraken, the real Kraken would not have to worry as much and potentially make a mistake. This is why I did not say anything and voted for Amer, as that was the kind of mistake I was expecting from a Kraken. Now that we know Amer is innocent, William made a mistake of "blindly" following Amer's reasoning to vote for landlubber, when there was no reason to vote for him at all. As this is the reasons to why I continue to "look" like the Kraken and taunting everyone, what is your reasons to think I am Kraken, Jack Tappers? Here was your previous reasons: Kraken candidate #1 is cid -Has very strong opinions about what the Kraken "really" looks like -Uses his depiction, which he is adamant is the only correct one, as his avatar -Said "If I'm going down, I'm taking one of you with me," which implies he would use his Kraken ability against the people who tried to kill him -might be Stabby, who expressed concern in the "Next Time" thread about the Kraken's ability to participate once dead -Stabby's reprehensible life choices would gravitate chance to make him the kraken -might be Amer, because of how much he blarfs the conversation, and if so is currently making the same mistake he did on the mildville express: panicking 1. You said the first one was a mistake, as you thought I said it, but realized it was Amer. 2. You can't say it was because of my avatar. You thought I was Kraken (tried to vote me off) before I started putting up Kraken avatars. 3. I only said this to living mutineers. You thinking that it was using "my" Kraken abilities to kill them is your bias in that interpretation. 4. Not even a valid reason. 5. Also not a valid reason. 6. We can ignore this one since we know The Dread Pirate Robert is Amer. So your only real evidence to suggest or to think I was the Kraken is #3, and that's it. This is based on your interpretation of what you heard from living mutineers, which makes the evidence for me being Kraken even questionable. So without any real evidence to suggest that I am the Kraken, mockery aside, aren't you doing the most damage by constantly telling people to vote for me even if I am not the Kraken? I am using my mockery to get the Kraken to make a mistake. All that you've done is say that I'm mocking everyone because you think I am the Kraken, and constantly being the noisy background that tells everyone to vote for me. Either help out by figuring out who is likely to be Kraken by examining the evidences, or shut your dead mouth. |
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Post by Jack Tappers on Oct 7, 2015 13:18:46 GMT -8
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Post by williammccoy on Oct 7, 2015 13:57:59 GMT -8
Do you really think that if I was the kraken i'd be so vocal in my annoyance that everyone is collaborating in secret and openly stating that I wouldn't be participating in a jailer's challenge for extra votes? Oh right, I'm a mastermind kraken who is ten steps ahead.
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