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Post by merlotbrougham on Apr 29, 2020 8:18:11 GMT -8
I have the power to switch players. I tried to switch Ron and Judy but it failed. I assume i got blocked but it could be because Judy got traded out and i hadn't noticed. Why did you chose those two to switch? |
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Post by merlotbrougham on Apr 29, 2020 8:20:23 GMT -8
Also, what exactly do you mean by "switch out" ? Can you explain a little more detail there, please?
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Post by annie2 on Apr 29, 2020 8:23:37 GMT -8
I don't trust Ron and i picked someone who seemed innocent to switch with. I considered not using it but thought maybe i could thwart a villain plan. Switching = trading places.
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Post by Ron Wednesday on Apr 29, 2020 8:28:16 GMT -8
'I think we have a reasonable amount of people wanting to see death. I'm good with killing a non participant. There are usually some evil players in that group and it's generally gamey, anyone got an easy list of those not posted yet? ' Like you are seriously holding that as a smoking gun that and saying that in that statement I 'took a survey' and 'concluded' something? In the context of all my other posts and just written logic for day one.. . When pressed on your reason for posting it, you fell back on waving your hand about how you're just so silly. Why did you think it? Did you think it? Either: 1) you don't understand how to digest other people's posts but decided your strategy as a hero is to post a lot of stuff you didn't really put thought into, in order to help us think rationally 2) you were lying 3) there really was a reasonable amount of people wanting to see death in the context of your suggestion I went through the threads and didn't see this reasonable number More like. 1. Post ideas and thoughts, like everyone else is doing. That's my 'strategy'. You could easily point this critique at anyone posting except for you who could never get past this one, yes silly, reason to jump on me. Please look at your smoking gun above. . .it's silly to make all those assumptions on what I wrote. It's allowed you to avoid ALL the other strategy contributations, ignore posts about how bad guys as usually bandwagon people, posts about powers, and really anything else. It's super clear now that it's all been a cover. 2. My thoughts might not be perfectly laid out, but certainly I'm not lying. I generally haven't even changed from my beliefs, which do seem to cooincide with others, given our dear departed hero's echoed my thoughts that not voting isn't saving anyone. I work online now, like most of us, so I've gotten more comfortable posting without it meaning the world and every word analysed. I feel like you get more of the person this way, and it mirrors our lives, where we can analyse the overall direction you take, not every single word held to the stake. 3. I don't know, I didn't take this survey, I'm still waiting on your to show? I remember having some chatter that was agreeing we should start to consider killing someone and I was simply agreeing with it. It's also been our strategy in all the other mildville's. . .which I also pointed out. This has been consistent, it wasn't a rallying cry, just my opinion shared honestly. Look, this continues to be a dumb distraction. I'll stand by what I said, which was totally normal stuff and doesn't seem to have distracted anyone but you who is taking over the thread with it. It's clear now the bad guys picked one person to rabble rouse and the others to jump on. #votePete |
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Post by stinkypete on Apr 29, 2020 8:31:07 GMT -8
Like I said on day 2, If everybody claims what they did and the result they got, we may be able to piece it together enough to find the liars and have a better chance of hitting a villain before we reach the point of no return. That's a good point. First night I watched Merlot with super stealth and he did indeed visit Stabby, and second night I watched Neutrino but was blocked. So between the claims of Wed, annie, myself, and son, I'm guessing there are at least 2 people who can block a power directly and 2 people who can immunize someone else against powers. I have the power to switch players. I tried to switch Ron and Judy but it failed. I assume i got blocked but it could be because Judy got traded out and i hadn't noticed. I think it would just switch Ron and Eric then. |
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Post by sonletmein on Apr 29, 2020 8:32:41 GMT -8
I used my power on Annie but it was blocked. She's a veterean player and I was suspicious of her questioning the value of the declarations as it would give us an angle to get some information. The fact I was blocked makes me more suspect of her. I am on the chopping block for the villains now I am assuming. How could reports from dead people who only had the power to know the other is innocent help? This wasn't about reports from dead people.I was hoping the heroes would use their power in some way to see if people's declarations of being heros were true or not |
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Post by bsketchy on Apr 29, 2020 8:37:14 GMT -8
Neutrino said some powers can only be used with dead people. The only useful dead people power I can think of is resurrection. Talking to the dead would be fruitless unless they didn't disclose everything in their death post. Any other ideas?
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Post by annie2 on Apr 29, 2020 8:41:07 GMT -8
How could reports from dead people who only had the power to know the other is innocent help? This wasn't about reports from dead people.I was hoping the heroes would use their power in some way to see if people's declarations of being heros were true or not ah, that. My thought was that no one had owned up to having that power so what was the use. Everyone will identify as a hero. Then I thought that you must have that power otherwise you wouldn't have pushed for something that would otherwise not move the game along. |
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Post by Ron Wednesday on Apr 29, 2020 8:49:24 GMT -8
This wasn't about reports from dead people.I was hoping the heroes would use their power in some way to see if people's declarations of being heros were true or not ah, that. My thought was that no one had owned up to having that power so what was the use. Everyone will identify as a hero. Then I thought that you must have that power otherwise you wouldn't have pushed for something that would otherwise not move the game along. This power to detect lies seems like a very subjective power, since some posts would be hard to decide on by Evan. I think more like we have the stop,visit,switch stuff. Curious if anyone had any really useful powers for gameplay or we're just all being asked to spy on each other and then see the other spies. That feels on point for the game. Though the buddy power was cool. |
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Post by Ron Wednesday on Apr 29, 2020 8:50:54 GMT -8
Missed my vote last round - but not going to happen this time. Voting for Ron (or whatever they're calling themselves these days) Is no one else super curious about people who haven't participated much coming in without explanation and voting for someone? There is only one group that would be into that and several people in this category, not just the above. I find it highly suspicious a 'name change' struck at their values and they had to vote. If there are people in the hero camp just voting for whatever name they see. . .why isn't Pete or anyone calling that out as dangerous behavior? There is something fishy here. |
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Post by stinkypete on Apr 29, 2020 9:05:42 GMT -8
1. Post ideas and thoughts, like everyone else is doing. That's my 'strategy'. You could easily point this critique at anyone posting except for you who could never get past this one, yes silly, reason to jump on me. Please look at your smoking gun above. . .it's silly to make all those assumptions on what I wrote. It's allowed you to avoid ALL the other strategy contributations, ignore posts about how bad guys as usually bandwagon people, posts about powers, and really anything else. It's super clear now that it's all been a cover. 2. My thoughts might not be perfectly laid out, but certainly I'm not lying. I generally haven't even changed from my beliefs, which do seem to cooincide with others, given our dear departed hero's echoed my thoughts that not voting isn't saving anyone. I work online now, like most of us, so I've gotten more comfortable posting without it meaning the world and every word analysed. I feel like you get more of the person this way, and it mirrors our lives, where we can analyse the overall direction you take, not every single word held to the stake. Look, this continues to be a dumb distraction. I'll stand by what I said, which was totally normal stuff and doesn't seem to have distracted anyone but you who is taking over the thread with it. It's clear now the bad guys picked one person to rabble rouse and the others to jump on. #votePete It really takes a bad guy to *checks notes* form a majority vote based on analysis of a person's unexplained behavior. Nobody's putting forward an alternate case. Followed by: "Let's form a majority vote for this guy, for trying to form a majority vote against me. I still can't explain why I falsely claimed to observe a bandwagon forming on day one in order to persuade people to form a majority around a 'randomly' selected inactive." 3. I don't know, I didn't take this survey, I'm still waiting on your to show? I remember having some chatter that was agreeing we should start to consider killing someone and I was simply agreeing with it. It's also been our strategy in all the other mildville's. . .which I also pointed out. This has been consistent, it wasn't a rallying cry, just my opinion shared honestly. I'm sorry, I didn't realize this was the Mildville where we instigate chatter in one direction and then share our opinions about it in order to have no effect on our collective actions at all But fine, you want me to spoon feed you this? Here are the posts I could find discussing the matter prior to Wednesday's stated impression of this cohort of people wanting to see death. In terms of who to vote, there is also always a third option. Vote for no one.
The rules say that you "can" vote for someone, which also means you have the option to not vote for anyone. (Maybe for at least just the first night). Since there isn't really any information to go on, we're more likely to kill a good person than a baddie.That being said, I'm going after the first person who votes for me... In past conundrances of villainry in Mildville, the only incentive to eliminate someone right away was to find out who they are, at the likely cost of one hero's vote. However in this case, we also lose that person's super power. Heros will have more airtight information to share after having a chance to use our powers If we don't vote for anyone, then nobody dies. Is that in the best interests for the good guys? Since we have zero information, statistically we are likely to just kill a good guy.
Then we can have a night phase to try and get some info.I was/am suspicious of Merlot and Mike because of posts like these, but Wednesday is the one who keeps melting. Are we making Mildtropolis Great Again or keeping Mildtropolis Great? Either way. Vote: bsketchy Change my mind. I'm still trying to figure things out, but if Farrell was a bad guy, it seems like this would be an interesting opening volley, of someone who would be pretending to be a good guy. I'm not insinuating that Farrell is a bad guy, and I haven't processed a good strategy yet, but if it is sound reasoning, and it benefits good guys, then I'm on board with this. But I'm conflicted, as I like the idea of thinning out the herd. I think it's a mildville tradition across dimensions to baselessly accuse one another. Personally, I think Amer could be a bad guy. I don't suggest voting for him this week, though, but I think it's interesting that this is a person who signed up third for Mildville, and now is lurking in the shadows during the day time. But Mike gets more leg room because it's so consistent with his personality To vote or not to vote. Thinking back, I've played in all of these mind-boggling walks through the desert. Do I remember the rules? There were rules? Normally, I would say "shoot the bastards" and let's get on with it. But, this time we're all trapped in our caves and desperate for any break in boredom (we're playing this game, aren't we?). So I say NO vote. Give us a fighting chance to break the monotony (and distinguish between night and day, or Tuesday from June). Or, throw in a curve, let us all vote but don't count it-- that would really screw with our minds. We should certainly kill someone. Yes, it *might* be totally random, though Farrell advocating for not does put a target IMO. But here is the thing, nighttime, it's 100% a good guy will die all things equal. Daytime, it's 50% goodguy, 50% badguy if we vote. So, at end of week with vote, it's 1.5x chance good guy dies, .5x bad guy. Without a vote, it's 1x Good guy dies. Also, without voting, people won't talk, slow channel, which means we also get less chance of revealing anything. Only a bad guy would advocate for status quo when status quo is the slow death of the good. (Are we talking about mildville or politcs?) I was just going to say something similar.. the bad guys definitely get to kill someone so it would work in their favor to convince the good guys not to vote because they 100% won’t lose anyone. And remember (I just re-read the rules so I’m an expert now) the rules say that the bad guys win when the number of players EQUALS the number of good guys. Also there’s no werewolf/vampire/alien/witch or whatever to be an equalizer this game. That's right, the moment it becomes 50/50 the bad guys win. Randomness tends to push us toward that equilibrium. So do we want to end the week with one good guy dead, or two? Killing someone during the day means they can't use their power at night. Dying at night at least gives us that 24 hours to tell everyone what we did with our powers that same night I mean, sure if everytime was random only, it would push to that, but it's weighted because bad guys get 1 kill either way such that inaction dooms us and delaying the inevitable choice of killing someone just puts our numbers at a worse spot next week. It's not dice roll till we end, we only get so many actions before we're out, and not voting effectivly removes one of our 8 or 9 chances. Voting is a rare decision point that's revealed to all, so it's removing a data point. If we hit a person good or bad, we learn some votes. And until night is over, I'm not convinced how much we will learn since it's so often rare we get anythign but a bunch of random data and lies(Though I havne't actually read all the night rules I guess). But whatever, I'm not that sure of this, it just feels non-mildvillian to peaceful go about our day mob free. Agreed, let's wipe out the un-participatory Which is why Amer was also suspicious of Buzzfly. Remember what "Ron" said about villains using bandwagoning in place of actual reasoning? Tune in next post where I quote all of Buzzfly's game-related posts |
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Post by stinkypete on Apr 29, 2020 9:14:33 GMT -8
Tune in next post where I quote all of Buzzfly's game-related posts Agreed, let's wipe out the un-participatory What did I ever do to you? |
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Post by bsketchy on Apr 29, 2020 9:15:42 GMT -8
That will be your shortest post yet! Edit: this was in response to your "tune in next post" statement. The quote feature failed me. |
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Post by Mac Murdock on Apr 29, 2020 11:34:05 GMT -8
Ok I tried to go all batman on the boards and put together as much info as was available
I left most accusations out of this trying to base this in fact. Info is from our fallen comrades or things people have said or done. Please correct any incorrect info/help me fill in the blanks!
Confirmed Power sets:
Super-Stealth: The power to follow a player at night to see whom they target
Clone: The power to have your day vote secretly counted twice
Invisibility: The power to watch a player at night to see who targets them
Resurrection: The power to protect one other person from being killed during the night
Mind Reading: The power to detect another players role
Linked Twins: Knew each other were good and could talk at night
Blocking: Power to Block someones’ power
Player Powers:
Amer - Super Steath
Will and Sarah - Twins
Ron - Invisibility (claimed)
Merlot - Super Stealth (claimed)
Annie - Switch Players (claimed)
Vote 1:
Merlot votes bsketchy
Night One:
Amer Dies
“I had bsketchy and stinkypete and Farrell as likely heroes.
I had Ron and Buzzfly as likely villains.”
We know that Ron targeted Stinky Pete
According to Merlot: Stabby visited Farell
Vote 2:
Farrell Votes Wednesday/Ron
Stinky pete votes Wednesday/Ron
Annie2 Votes Wednesday/Ron
Night 2:
Sarah and Will die simultaneously
According to Merlot: Trebec visit Wednesday/Ron.
According to Son he attempted to target Annie but failed
According to Ron he attempted to target ______ but failed
According to Annie she attempted to switch Ron and Judy but it failed
Sarah’s thoughts (abridged):
“3. Why is everyone against Ron Wednesday? That’s the only person whose power is confirmed so use it!
4. You should just kill Buzzfly.
5. I have no idea who else was bad, maybe Mike Lenin? Maybe annie2? I thought Judy but she left and was replaced by Erik Coppertop”
Will agreed but did not elaborate
Vote 3:
Farrell Votes Wednesday/Ron
Merlot votes Wednesday/Ron*
BSketchy votes Neutrino
Annie2 Votes Buzzfly
Merlot un-votes Wednesday/Ron
Mike votes Wednesday/Ron
Stinky pete votes Wednesday/Ron
Ron Votes for Pete
Jesse votes Wednesday/Ron
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Post by annie2 on Apr 29, 2020 11:40:15 GMT -8
Wow. I bet color coded charts were involved with this.
I think Merlot voted Farrell and then unvoted him.
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Post by Farrell on Apr 29, 2020 11:58:28 GMT -8
So if Stabby visited me on night one, what did he see? Also why did he choose me?
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Post by Ron Wednesday on Apr 29, 2020 13:00:44 GMT -8
I don't trust Ron and i picked someone who seemed innocent to switch with. I considered not using it but thought maybe i could thwart a villain plan. Switching = trading places. My power was outed by Amer and is vistation. Why switch someone you considered innocent with me then? Does the switch mean our locations are switched or that our powers are switched? In either case, not sure the thought process there. |
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Post by Farrell on Apr 29, 2020 13:28:45 GMT -8
I don't trust Ron and i picked someone who seemed innocent to switch with. I considered not using it but thought maybe i could thwart a villain plan. Switching = trading places. My power was outed by Amer and is vistation. Why switch someone you considered innocent with me then? Does the switch mean our locations are switched or that our powers are switched? In either case, not sure the thought process there. Every power is visitation basically. You visit the person to use your power which we are sort of guessing is invisibility. Why are you lying, again....? |
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Post by Ron Wednesday on Apr 29, 2020 13:58:29 GMT -8
My power was outed by Amer and is vistation. Why switch someone you considered innocent with me then? Does the switch mean our locations are switched or that our powers are switched? In either case, not sure the thought process there. Every power is visitation basically. You visit the person to use your power which we are sort of guessing is invisibility. Why are you lying, again....? Switching doesn't seem like visting, ressurection doesn't, neither was the thing where they knew each otherwas good I imagine. That's what i was asking to clarify, was it switching who was visited or switching powers.? Mine is the thing where you get to see what someone else is doing, invisilibty, though it hasn't done much so far. What in the world is there to lie about in asking this question? Seriously . . . jumping on top of every bit of wording seems activly trying to confuse rather than help get useful info. Even if you think I'm a bad guy, I'm trying to uncover information, not obfuscate it, which helps us all out. |
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Post by annie2 on Apr 29, 2020 15:22:39 GMT -8
Amer's power was super stealth which allowed him to follow you to see who you visited. Multiple people have "visitation" incorporated in their power. He was not able to identify what you did. So "visitation" is not an independent power. Why else would super stealth exist unless to confirm the various players who can "visit?"
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